Dear Tits & Sass,
I’m an independent escort suddenly finding herself in transition after advertising on Backpage for a couple of years. I’ve been pretty successful with it all this time, but that world has its obvious financial and professional limitations, and I’d like to surpass them. It’s become clear to me as of late that it’s time for me to move on; I’m just not sure where!
Ideally, I want to SEO the shit out of my website and operate independently from it, but it still needs work, so it doesn’t currently serve me as a major asset. In the meantime, I am curious about alternatives that are similar to Backpage’s style but do without so much…notoriety. Cityvibe looks even worse, and Eros has not worked great for me in the past. I live in a small, popular city in my region, but it is not a major one, so I wonder how much traffic any other escort ad sites even receive here. Might you have any suggestions about advertising mediums/strategies? Are all of these sites pretty much the same?
Sincerely,
Bumping Up from Backpage
Beatrice Darling: Unfortunately, Eros is really the crème de la crème of escort advertising. Clients looking for high-end girls will consistently check Eros, and clients who travel on business find it convenient to look in one spot. Lots of girls are priced out of advertising there for the most part, which automatically sets you apart. This is especially true if you spring for preferred placement or VIP provider ads, but those are the only two upgrades I’ve found to be of value.
If your site isn’t much, however, you already know you need to invest in that first. Find the sites of six or eight escorts who you perceive as being where you want to be from a business perspective, and take note of who designed their sites. Contact their designers, and let them know specifically that you are especially looking for search engine optimization, and that you would like your site to be your primary form of advertisement. I suspect that most designers would optimize your site as part of the design, but if they ask for a fee to really beef up that piece of their design process, consider that whatever you pay for SEO, if it is done extremely well, will save you money on advertising in the long run.
Finally, if you still really hate Eros or—and this is the more relevant way of looking at it—if advertising on Eros does not get you the kind of clients you are looking for, there are a few other options you can check out that are a step above Backpage. There are probably review boards in your city where you can make a reputation for yourself. Check them out for tone, because there are utterly misogynistic boards that are drama-riddled clusterfucks, and there are nicer boards that host polite adults. You will know the difference immediately. Also, beware: The more board posts a guy has, the less money he will probably spend on you.
Emma Blume: My marketing strategy involves optimizing my presence on established sites, rather than on SEO or newer escort malls that show up on the first page of google searches. It’s tempting to create profiles on free ad sites, but remember that many prospective clients search your number, site and/or name before booking, and so placement on sites primarily populated with escorts in a completely different market segment may detract from your brand.
Like you, I’m not a huge fan of the main mid- to high-end sites, but they do have an established reputation with clients and thus bring in business. I’ve also found that while these sites often do not generate an immediate return and are somewhat pricey, it makes sense to maintain ads. My logic is that most clients don’t book immediately after they see an ad they like. They browse. They look at other sites. A few weeks or even months may go by before they finally make contact, and if they don’t bookmark your site (most don’t), and if your ad is no longer there when they’re finally ready to book, they will assume you are no longer available.
Another component of my advertisement is directed at getting new clients is banner exchange: 5-10% of traffic to my site comes from other escort sites in a given month. Banner exchanges reflect on your brand, and they also bring in two-way traffic, so I’d suggest exchanging them thoughtfully. I generally exchange banners with escorts in my price range with a different appearance, persona or location.
While it’s tempting to regularly replace photographs and write new text to target clients who may not have liked my existing photos or text, it’s more effective to have coherent (and somewhat repetitive) ads and to maintain them over time. Because most clients do not book or make contact immediately, those who eventually book often become attached to particular images or phrases in your advertising. Changing it up too often can mess with the process of growing infatuation to booking.
A blog, Twitter account, and newsletter can allow you to continuously add new information about yourself and candid photos. They are especially great for maintaining relationships with people who you’ve seen in the past but are not regular enough to merit personal emails. An added blog bonus: Blogs can increase your Google search ranking, especially if you write an occasional post filled with key words like “vip escort,” “gfe,” “courtesan,” and so on.
Annora Quinn: I have met some of my best clients on Backpage, and before that on Craigslist, when it still offered the Erotic Services section. What worked best for me was that I posted a true reflection of what meeting me would be like, and updated my ads often with either different photos or text. A lot of potential good clients peruse the site because it is easy to access and well known, and by updating and reposting often, you have a better chance of attracting their attention. You might not attract the kind of clients you are looking for every time you post, though, and you may have to spend more time on posting and re-posting and weeding through the replies to find the good ones.
To find other good sites to advertise on, I suggest doing some searches imagining that you are your perfect client and see what comes up. For example, search “independent escort + brunette + your city” to see what’s there, then try advertising on those sites. Right now I work in a handful of different cities and a lot of the time the small, region-specific sites have the best traffic, which is perhaps why Eros didn’t work for you.
If you know Eros doesn’t work for you then don’t bother with them, but other paid sites in the same style might. The only way for you to find out is by trying them. The good thing about most of these sites is that you can usually write an ad and post it for a month without the worry about constantly updating. Having a paid advertisement doesn’t always mean more traffic for you so it’s important to keep track of where you are getting new clients from, to see if the investment of your advertising budget is worthwhile. Keep track of where you post and ask new clients how they found you so you know what’s working out and what’s a waste of time.
Are you a sex worker with a work-related problem? Write us at info at titsandsass dot com and we’ll do our best to find knowledgable folks to reply with advice.
this is all very good advice
Great advice. IMO getting your website to work for you within the search engines should be top priority, especially if you reside in a very competitive area or travel a lot. This should also go hand in hand with the above mentioned options. Test, get results, if good, wash, rinse and repeat :-}
The advice and resources provided in this article are written extremely well and very helpful. You should also use your experience from Backpage as a consultant to advise other escorts. Your knowledge of advertising would also be helpful to other members of the escort industry.
I have been in the biz a while and finding the need to get a new group of clients as well. I find that Eros.com isn’t what it use to be and they seem to let all types of people advertise there. It use to be mostly upscale girls,, now its just street girls and the traffic isn’t good anymore here in Chicago. Been searching high an low for new was to generate business.
Very helpful info I have to get some great web designers to really get my website going. I love the different stories you all shared very helpful tips.
Marketing…depending on how comfortable you are letting the world know your income source is the key. If you become an iconic name just like any entertainer, they will come. In marketing everything you do should be a stepping stone to furthering name recognition and the creation of desire. A long term goal is necessary, an example is writing books and lecturing.
In most successful business endeavors consultants are necessary.
Beatrice, Emma and Annora have all made very excellent points. I actually just stumbled across this site on accident as a retired international companion and author of an eBook about the subject I must say their advice is spot on and true. It’s all about branding yourself in the right manner and catering to the type of clientele base that your looking for. It does take time but with the right marketing plan and commitment you can reach your goals. I agree with you about Backpage being home to some undesirable clientele and I believe its because alot of girls who post there set their prices low and it makes it easy for clients to manipulate the market. Example: if all the providers on backpage were to set there rates at $250(just for example) for six months and not undercut each other eventually clients would be forced to pay and $250 would become the new normal and expected rate. But once again the ladies here have gave you some great advice. Recreate your image,set your new rates, market to the right clients and have patience. I speak extensively about how to do this step by step in my newest eBook “How To Become An Elite Escort” It’s
available on Amazon for Kindle and I’ve made the first 3 chapters available for free. I’ll leave a link below. Anyhow good luck with everything and once again great advice ladies! It’s good to see providers helping each other instead of tearing each other down.
Regards,
Stephanie Lawson
Yes!!! Thank you. Girls pleaseeeee don’t do deals or specials! Every single guy on planet earth would like to get a discounteven if your bluffing, once you establish what the donations are….they don’t change!!!!! If your donations are 150hh,250h..(exactly how it appears on your post).then idc if they say they have 130 …i can get someone else etc. if that person gets a work up
what other sites are good to post ads on ? does anyone have any suggestions besides backpage and euros
Hi.
I actually have a ? about an anonymous way to pay for online advertising as a provider. I was using a prepaid cc, big mistake. Is there anyway you ladiesknoe of to pay for these adult ad business transactions without being tracec and identity protected?
Many thanks ladies. Ciao. Ciao
Xo Alexa V.
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As an edtablished mature escort I fortunate to have wonderful loyal clients to offer steady income with security without LE worries. Ism always trying to learn fresh ideas for advertising, too.
Always happy to share info for newbies. Here are a couple notes that work for me, maybe for you too.
Eros is ideal for the upscale client. Generally they will be courteous inquiring and give plenty of notice to make a date. If you only offer email you can be selective and answer on YOUR schedule
As mentioned major cities are best to advertise. Downtown not always best. Airports great and surrounding areas a outlet miles away best also. Look at the ads in major cities actually better to pick an area with LESS escorts. But research and pick the most affluent areas. Google home,hotel and restaurant costs for comparison.
For ex, in D.C. immediate downtown is very expensive but surrounding areas (within 3-15mi) are actually better like Tyson’s Corner or Bethesda. But not Chantilly or Fairfax as much. Same distance away from city but not as affluent areas. You can use ZILLOW for example to find the highest priced homes.
Or just google “what are theis expensive areas near “city”.
Also, you can start with just a travel ad. Less advertising cost and ad from 1-14 days. For new ads you don’t need VIP or banner ads nor additional sub-categories like blonde.
Think about something very personal and specific about your ad. Example, you have special unique massage touch, or unique extensive lingerie wardrobe.; or you offer very late or very early time availibilty. Something unique to you! Always make your ad text personal like you are speaking to a friend affectionately.PERSONALLY. like”I am super sweet and I live to laugh”. Not an escort who is friendly as if it is a text that can apply to any escort. Always use the words “I” and specific special words, fun, laughters silly adventurous, in the first person.
Now, it is always good just for monetary business to advertise on forums that scroll through ads quickly. If you will get this. An affluent area that doesn’t have a lot of providers. Like outside of Philadelphia you can pick affluent suburb 20 to 25 miles away. That has very few providers. But are very affluent. You may be the only girl out there. And people would come to you just because you’re there.
Unfortunately, with back page the ads go by fast. The client to call those ads. Can really be screened more thoroughly. They call and they want to see you right away. Always say yes I am available. Because if you say I’m available in an hour, or say well I need to take a shower you’re just going to go on to the next girl. For every 10 phone calls you get you may only get one booking. With Backpage you get a lot of guys are just taking time to call. You get a lot of no shows. And you get craftpeople they just went now and quick.
But if you need monetary quick business this is the route to go. Now this is a tip that I don’t recommend for everyone. But it will work for you. You may want to offer a lower rate in the suburb areas. Then you might be when you’re staying downtown. The hotels or less. Advertising is only 10 to 20 dollars. So you will get more clients. Don’t forget to offer especially if you’re willing to put in the extra work.
He personally now that I’m older I don’t want to see if we need 5 clients a day or more if you like lol. But when I was doing it full time it was great I could book an ad in 5 minutes for 10 to 20 dollars. And my phone will ring in 10 minutes. They will stop ringing quickly though so you will have to repost sometimes every 4 to 12 hours.
Also, on arrow. You’re paying more for the add. And you can charge higher prices. You’re seeing a selective clientele that want to pay more so they want a woman who is going to spend the full amount of time. Hair makeup nails massage table oils condiments alphat toys wigs whatever should be available and is nice the room as you can get.
I really like to share this pic because I hate to see girls pay to $300 for a three and a half to four star hotel that you can get for under $100. Do some research. Some of the website that you can bid on you can get a hotel room for 60 percent off!! I really pay over $100 for an excellent room.
If you are bidding the later you wait to bet on the room closer to the date of your stay it’s cheaper. Why book it a week ahead of time. Some cities weekdays are much cheaper. You are beach communities or vacation areas weekends are going to be up to three times as much.
When you go into the city as in New York City. Absolute staying in midtown Manhattan is best.
But with that page you can charge you know $5200 glad that you’re going to see many more clients. They want half hour specials but you’re going to spend a lot less time with them a lot of conversations be as sweet and great service just a lot left or amount of time. And really do you do the full hour unless they request that.
Package is not my favorite but it is an avenue for quick money and appointments. But again law enforcement trolls those sites it’s not just something very experienced girls are telling you. They are doing stings all the time don’t be surprised.
Don’t be afraid to make your pictures more personal and friendly. Sensual is better than too overly sexy. And nasty position with just a thong on isn’t as pretty as a girl posing sensually with a robe on pretty and exposing her bikini. But let me tell you stockings and heels go a long way girls! And wig are wonderful. It can save you an hour of their preparation. Plus you can be a redhead or brunette a blonde in less than 30 seconds. You can buy a nice but affordable wig at beauty supply stores.
Fake eyelashes planning a mani pedi combination or create things that are easy and affordable but make you look spectacular.
I want all of the young girls coming up to teach me a few new tricks and be well be safe and be successful.
Don’t be too greedy and keep lowering your price and doing more appointments. Still get burned out will be to businesse and you’ll be rushing. And you won’t get repeat clientele
You can still shorten the appointment by doing the same work but slow down if they don’t feel rushed so still enjoyed himself quicker.
And a great review if you don’t mind having one can add many clients to your roster. Don’t pay someone don’t make up a fake review. But when you have a client really enjoyed you and mentions it say hey I’m new I wonder if I could get a review?
If you do a fake review I promise you they will know.
He mentioned in passing in the offer to do a review and they do one thank them and show your appreciation by and building them more! Not offering to pay or bribing them
As far as telling clients personal business. Only the rare client who is just being rude and pushy to bother you can leave No and I can answer personal questions. But there is always something personal to talk about. Always something real like a place you travel to. That’s cool you’ve been to. Especially you both have been to. But take it from my experience clients do not want to hear about you. Even if they pretend to. All you have to do is ask them a question and open-ended question? And they will begin to talk. Show interest by asking them questions.
Don’t do what I did in the beginning because I was nervous and talk so much. They will pretend to be interested but you’re just being polite. Make it about them and slow down. Just the way you are even if you have clients waiting. The soul you are they will feel unrushed and relaxed not be nervous and it’ll be over quicker anyway..
Always shower between even if it’s only a minute shower and they can tell. Plus you feel fresh apply new make up. And stockings and garters again will go forever and adding to your rate.
Learn their names call them by their name before after and during the appointment when you thank them. You’d be surprised how often that makes a difference. They want to come back. Be sure to ask them or offer to have him come back. Oh thank all clients! Offer regulars a special rate or even better; offer to give them an additional 30 minutes or whichever you prefer. And try not to call them regulars, lol! Repeat client, special friends, known friends good to call them. Think of a personal thought yhat will relate to them Inquire again. They will love the fact that you remembered them! That they are special that you know them. If you save their numbers, Save the name , where they’re from, their age, something special about their heritage or what you talk about or what they like. When they call you can say “Oh, Steven or so-and-so I’m so glad to see you agai! I loved our talking about or that you love his massage or whatever they preferred.
Or I have new stockings or a new lingerie I
‘m going to show just you!
Good luck! Happy to always share thoughts and learn from you too!
Just the tip, when the appointment become a chore or dread, It’s time to take some time off for yourself! Do with Travel adwhen it comes for 14 days take a couple days for yourself. Don’t be afraid to travel a new fresh area, fresh ad, new hotel, fresh pictures make you feel better and renewed excitement!
Good luck, be safe, quality isn’t quality. Truly girls be safe be well I wish you so much love and luck!!
CeCe
Great post. And thank you CeCe! That was an wonderful contribution and VERY inspiring!
Great advice! As an escort myself the advertising part is half of the work! You should also try Hookedin (hookedin.com) They even show stats of the traffic to your profile. Seems new but they are getting decent traffic. They are free so no downside on trying it.
Very helpful! Thanks for that amazing contribution.
I have a question…so how often should you post and what’s some good websites?