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		By: On Backpage &#124; Tits and Sass		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[On Backpage &#124; Tits and Sass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 02:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] platform was seized or pressured into shuttering, you’ve seen me give the pep talk I give myself, the pep talk we all give ourselves: that sex workers are canny and resilient, that we will find the loopholes [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] platform was seized or pressured into shuttering, you’ve seen me give the pep talk I give myself, the pep talk we all give ourselves: that sex workers are canny and resilient, that we will find the loopholes [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Top Six Reasons Melania Trump Should Get Involved In Anti-Trafficking Campaigning — Tits and Sass		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Top Six Reasons Melania Trump Should Get Involved In Anti-Trafficking Campaigning — Tits and Sass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2017 17:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] of trafficking with sex work has long been used to crack down on the sex industry as a whole, as in the witch-hunt against Backpage.com, which was undertaken with the specter of trafficking as its justification. Melania could represent [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] of trafficking with sex work has long been used to crack down on the sex industry as a whole, as in the witch-hunt against Backpage.com, which was undertaken with the specter of trafficking as its justification. Melania could represent [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: We Deserve Better: Reflections On The War On Backpage &#124; porque eres sucia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[We Deserve Better: Reflections On The War On Backpage &#124; porque eres sucia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2017 06:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Originally Posted in Tits and Sass October 2016 here  [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Originally Posted in Tits and Sass October 2016 here  [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Sex Workers Protest Shutdown of Backpage&#8217;s Adult Ads Section Following Gvt. Pressure		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sex Workers Protest Shutdown of Backpage&#8217;s Adult Ads Section Following Gvt. Pressure]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2017 15:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] workers have been criticizing the campaign against Backpage for months. Yet this protest has been largely ignored by lawmakers. And even some anti-trafficking [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] workers have been criticizing the campaign against Backpage for months. Yet this protest has been largely ignored by lawmakers. And even some anti-trafficking [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Racquel T		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/we-deserve-better-reflections-on-the-war-on-backpage/#comment-1148201</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Racquel T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/we-deserve-better-reflections-on-the-war-on-backpage/#comment-1136573&quot;&gt;Anonymous Senior&lt;/a&gt;.

i wish they wpuld read this womans words bc it is so true, We CHOOSE to do This ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/we-deserve-better-reflections-on-the-war-on-backpage/#comment-1136573">Anonymous Senior</a>.</p>
<p>i wish they wpuld read this womans words bc it is so true, We CHOOSE to do This </p>
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		By: Anonymous Senior		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Senior]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2016 04:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This  is the most outrageous load of bullshit i have ever heard. Stupid people trying to &quot;rescue us&quot; from ourselves. These people have absolutely no f----- clue as to what some of us have to do to survive out here. Some of us are well over 50 yrs old, We do NOT have pimps. we are NOT victims and we are not being forced by anyone to do it. Some of us are barely getting by and this is our only income. We have bills to pay, food to buy so we dont starve, we have to keep a roof over our heads etc. I will be damned if I lose everything I have just ( and that is very little) just because you all have moral issues. And who is trafficking children. Give me a break. I am doing what I can just to survive and I will be damned if I go find another man to support me. No thank you. I dont need anymore narcissist crap.  Tell you what: You pay ALL of my bills, pay my rent, put gas in my car, buy my basic necessities etc and I will quit. Otherwise please shut the hell up and go away. ( and dont be telling me to go get an real job either because I tried that and its just a waste of time getting rejection letters for years &#038; years and if you do happen to get offered something the pay is so low you cant pay your bills and they wont wait). I am NOT going back to living on the street. Seriously stop trying to rescue us from trying to support ourselves. Some of us arent doing this shit because we want to, we are doing because we have to. Its our only income.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This  is the most outrageous load of bullshit i have ever heard. Stupid people trying to &#8220;rescue us&#8221; from ourselves. These people have absolutely no f&#8212;&#8211; clue as to what some of us have to do to survive out here. Some of us are well over 50 yrs old, We do NOT have pimps. we are NOT victims and we are not being forced by anyone to do it. Some of us are barely getting by and this is our only income. We have bills to pay, food to buy so we dont starve, we have to keep a roof over our heads etc. I will be damned if I lose everything I have just ( and that is very little) just because you all have moral issues. And who is trafficking children. Give me a break. I am doing what I can just to survive and I will be damned if I go find another man to support me. No thank you. I dont need anymore narcissist crap.  Tell you what: You pay ALL of my bills, pay my rent, put gas in my car, buy my basic necessities etc and I will quit. Otherwise please shut the hell up and go away. ( and dont be telling me to go get an real job either because I tried that and its just a waste of time getting rejection letters for years &amp; years and if you do happen to get offered something the pay is so low you cant pay your bills and they wont wait). I am NOT going back to living on the street. Seriously stop trying to rescue us from trying to support ourselves. Some of us arent doing this shit because we want to, we are doing because we have to. Its our only income.</p>
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		By: Laura Agustín		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura Agustín]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2016 05:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Netherlands, not Denmark.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Netherlands, not Denmark.</p>
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		By: L		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/we-deserve-better-reflections-on-the-war-on-backpage/#comment-1132966</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2016 13:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kamala Harris will isn&#039;t getting my vote. 
I miss volunteering at SJI. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kamala Harris will isn&#8217;t getting my vote.<br />
I miss volunteering at SJI. </p>
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		By: GRRL Interlude 001: feminist and music news featuring songs from Polish and Crooked &#8211; Grrl on Grrl Podcast		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GRRL Interlude 001: feminist and music news featuring songs from Polish and Crooked &#8211; Grrl on Grrl Podcast]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2016 21:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] We Deserve Better: Reflections on the War on Backpage (Tits and Sass) [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		By: Kagehi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kagehi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2016 14:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/we-deserve-better-reflections-on-the-war-on-backpage/#comment-1131568&quot;&gt;Norma Jean Almodovar&lt;/a&gt;.

Problem is.. while we might have &quot;some&quot; statistics, they are the &quot;wrong&quot; statistics. For example - 457 minors? Only... other evidence suggests that a lot of these, if not possibly most of them, are a) just dumped back on the street, and b) not actually rescued at all. Worse, the evidence also suggests they are inflating some of these numbers, when they talk about those &quot;rescued&quot;, by using social service lists, instead of arrests. Basically lumping kids taken into custody by those agencies for abuse by relatives, and other issues, which do not even have anything to do with sex at all, never mind prostitution.

They are misusing what statistics they do have to &quot;manufacture&quot; outrage, when some of them are not, as you say, just flat out making shit up. Mean while... what isn&#039;t out there is statistics on how many people are doing this stuff just to pay rent, how many are independent operators, who get lumped in with trafficking, how many of the arrests are of people providing not &quot;pimping&quot;, but what I suppose you could call communication/safety venues, to help make things safer. In short, how much of the effort being made isn&#039;t just dry statistics on arrests, and a fundamental disconnect between those and the claimed number of imaginary victims, but the actual real world cost its having to everyone involved.

Even with the numbers just flat not adding up, at all, its not something people will pay attention to, because the only number of the equation most of them, and the people pushing this BS are making sure of it, is those 457 minors (while also doing their best to hide the fact that who knows how many of those are never actually &quot;saved&quot; at all). I am kind of reminded of the damning facts, still ignored to this day, by the so called 12 step programs, which where caught padding their lists with active members, and saying, &quot;We have no way of actually knowing what happens to any of the people that leave the program.&quot; Pretty easy to have an amazing success rate, when you don&#039;t actually give a damn what the outcome actually is, just the process itself, and the perceived successes.

No, the outrage needed has to come from all the shit that &quot;isn&#039;t&quot; being officially reported.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/we-deserve-better-reflections-on-the-war-on-backpage/#comment-1131568">Norma Jean Almodovar</a>.</p>
<p>Problem is.. while we might have &#8220;some&#8221; statistics, they are the &#8220;wrong&#8221; statistics. For example &#8211; 457 minors? Only&#8230; other evidence suggests that a lot of these, if not possibly most of them, are a) just dumped back on the street, and b) not actually rescued at all. Worse, the evidence also suggests they are inflating some of these numbers, when they talk about those &#8220;rescued&#8221;, by using social service lists, instead of arrests. Basically lumping kids taken into custody by those agencies for abuse by relatives, and other issues, which do not even have anything to do with sex at all, never mind prostitution.</p>
<p>They are misusing what statistics they do have to &#8220;manufacture&#8221; outrage, when some of them are not, as you say, just flat out making shit up. Mean while&#8230; what isn&#8217;t out there is statistics on how many people are doing this stuff just to pay rent, how many are independent operators, who get lumped in with trafficking, how many of the arrests are of people providing not &#8220;pimping&#8221;, but what I suppose you could call communication/safety venues, to help make things safer. In short, how much of the effort being made isn&#8217;t just dry statistics on arrests, and a fundamental disconnect between those and the claimed number of imaginary victims, but the actual real world cost its having to everyone involved.</p>
<p>Even with the numbers just flat not adding up, at all, its not something people will pay attention to, because the only number of the equation most of them, and the people pushing this BS are making sure of it, is those 457 minors (while also doing their best to hide the fact that who knows how many of those are never actually &#8220;saved&#8221; at all). I am kind of reminded of the damning facts, still ignored to this day, by the so called 12 step programs, which where caught padding their lists with active members, and saying, &#8220;We have no way of actually knowing what happens to any of the people that leave the program.&#8221; Pretty easy to have an amazing success rate, when you don&#8217;t actually give a damn what the outcome actually is, just the process itself, and the perceived successes.</p>
<p>No, the outrage needed has to come from all the shit that &#8220;isn&#8217;t&#8221; being officially reported.</p>
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