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		By: Can You Make Six Figures A Year Off Reply Guys? Caroline Calloway Thinks So. &#124; Tits and Sass		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Can You Make Six Figures A Year Off Reply Guys? Caroline Calloway Thinks So. &#124; Tits and Sass]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] girl who is thrilled to have a venue to express her sexuality, ad infinitum. Sex work tourism (as well as shock value patronage) use to really personally offend me when I was younger, but I’ve seen it [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] girl who is thrilled to have a venue to express her sexuality, ad infinitum. Sex work tourism (as well as shock value patronage) use to really personally offend me when I was younger, but I’ve seen it [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Strip Club Tourist Reports: Strip Club DJ Edition		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/two-vice-writers-walk-into-a-bar/#comment-5349</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Strip Club Tourist Reports: Strip Club DJ Edition]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2013 20:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] club tourist reports comes in two main forms: I&#8217;m Not That Kind Of Guy and I&#8217;m Not A Guy. This week, I learned about a third type: I Was A Strip Club DJ For A Night, in the form of Eric [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] club tourist reports comes in two main forms: I&#8217;m Not That Kind Of Guy and I&#8217;m Not A Guy. This week, I learned about a third type: I Was A Strip Club DJ For A Night, in the form of Eric [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Kelly		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/two-vice-writers-walk-into-a-bar/#comment-3796</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kelly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2012 15:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh my god!  People can get kicked out of strip clubs for being cheap?  Thats the most awesome thing I&#039;ve ever heard and I wish other businesses would adopt that!  I&#039;ve never been a dancer (I missed my chance) but I have been a waitress and I can spot a bad tipper a mile away.  As a server, I didn&#039;t have to pay a house fee - but I did have to live on my $2.13 an hour plus tips, and waiting tables is hard work too.  People should be banned for not tipping a hard-working individual.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my god!  People can get kicked out of strip clubs for being cheap?  Thats the most awesome thing I&#8217;ve ever heard and I wish other businesses would adopt that!  I&#8217;ve never been a dancer (I missed my chance) but I have been a waitress and I can spot a bad tipper a mile away.  As a server, I didn&#8217;t have to pay a house fee &#8211; but I did have to live on my $2.13 an hour plus tips, and waiting tables is hard work too.  People should be banned for not tipping a hard-working individual.</p>
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		By: J		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/two-vice-writers-walk-into-a-bar/#comment-3638</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is a huge problem with Vice, in my opinion. They have some smart and funny women writing for them, but whatever individuality they have is generally subsumed by the &quot;house style&quot;, which consists of writing from the point of view of an asshole, &quot;un-PC&quot; dude who &quot;doesn&#039;t give a fuck&quot; about being respectful towards women, minorities and gays because feminazis destroy humor! He is going to make the laziest jokes possible and when people rightly point out that they&#039;re offensive, he is going to call them faggots!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a huge problem with Vice, in my opinion. They have some smart and funny women writing for them, but whatever individuality they have is generally subsumed by the &#8220;house style&#8221;, which consists of writing from the point of view of an asshole, &#8220;un-PC&#8221; dude who &#8220;doesn&#8217;t give a fuck&#8221; about being respectful towards women, minorities and gays because feminazis destroy humor! He is going to make the laziest jokes possible and when people rightly point out that they&#8217;re offensive, he is going to call them faggots!</p>
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		By: Kelly McClure		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/two-vice-writers-walk-into-a-bar/#comment-3588</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kelly McClure]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/two-vice-writers-walk-into-a-bar/#comment-3534&quot;&gt;story&lt;/a&gt;.

Just read this and want to thank you for it. I can promise that in this case, &quot;practice makes perfect,&quot; suits us just fine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/two-vice-writers-walk-into-a-bar/#comment-3534">story</a>.</p>
<p>Just read this and want to thank you for it. I can promise that in this case, &#8220;practice makes perfect,&#8221; suits us just fine.</p>
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		By: Ariel From Hell		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/two-vice-writers-walk-into-a-bar/#comment-3578</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ariel From Hell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 13:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lmfao. I sent this to diehipster.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lmfao. I sent this to diehipster.com</p>
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		By: story		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/two-vice-writers-walk-into-a-bar/#comment-3534</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 19:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[dear kelly and sophie,
sigh. i&#039;m going to go out on a limb and defend you, kind of. i actually don&#039;t like your article and i agree with catherine it was, for the most part, boring (did you really tell the same story from two different perspectives and think that was creative?) BUT i think maybe you&#039;re getting slammed a little too hard. i think spending $100 each for a night out at a strip club is totally fine. are you the customers i want? no. but it&#039;s not like the club is ever packed with dream customers. middling spenders exist and they&#039;re not nearly as bad as the folks who don&#039;t spend a dime so thanks for at least throwing some greenbacks around. plus the first time i stumbled into a strip club i didn&#039;t spend more than $20 and i was stupid and self-congratulatory and definitely trying to impress the people i went with so i feel you. only after a little more life-experience and learning (and stripping!) did i wisen up and expect to pony up on strip club visits. 
i still don&#039;t spend tons of money at clubs when i visit as a patron and it&#039;s not the fact that you didn&#039;t actually spend fat stacks that&#039;s the problem. the real rub in your article was your unsavory commentary that was at best thoughtless and at worst hateful and offensive. admittedly, that makes the whole article pretty lame and i&#039;m glad you&#039;re getting an earful on the subject. my guess is you wrote all that weird &quot;greedy ho&quot; business to sound snappy and edgy but bad jokes don&#039;t take the place of good creative writing and you probably didn&#039;t understand that from our point of view your night out was anything but novel.
all in all, my take on it is that you&#039;re silly newbie custies more in need of sympathy and education than dragging through the mud.  you made the bad choice of trying to write about your first time at a strip club because you needed some eyebrow raising material and didn&#039;t realize your freshmen antics were cringeworthy - especially with how much you felt the need to talk each other up in the article like a two lady circle jerk BUT, to both of you, come back and try again! if you don&#039;t want to tip someone who you&#039;re not interested in, that&#039;s fine, just be polite about it. and watch your alcohol intake and don&#039;t confuse bragging about your faux bad assery with good journalism. if you&#039;re such a fan of sexworkers show it with your money and your words in a second strip club visit.
love,
story the stripper]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear kelly and sophie,<br />
sigh. i&#8217;m going to go out on a limb and defend you, kind of. i actually don&#8217;t like your article and i agree with catherine it was, for the most part, boring (did you really tell the same story from two different perspectives and think that was creative?) BUT i think maybe you&#8217;re getting slammed a little too hard. i think spending $100 each for a night out at a strip club is totally fine. are you the customers i want? no. but it&#8217;s not like the club is ever packed with dream customers. middling spenders exist and they&#8217;re not nearly as bad as the folks who don&#8217;t spend a dime so thanks for at least throwing some greenbacks around. plus the first time i stumbled into a strip club i didn&#8217;t spend more than $20 and i was stupid and self-congratulatory and definitely trying to impress the people i went with so i feel you. only after a little more life-experience and learning (and stripping!) did i wisen up and expect to pony up on strip club visits.<br />
i still don&#8217;t spend tons of money at clubs when i visit as a patron and it&#8217;s not the fact that you didn&#8217;t actually spend fat stacks that&#8217;s the problem. the real rub in your article was your unsavory commentary that was at best thoughtless and at worst hateful and offensive. admittedly, that makes the whole article pretty lame and i&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re getting an earful on the subject. my guess is you wrote all that weird &#8220;greedy ho&#8221; business to sound snappy and edgy but bad jokes don&#8217;t take the place of good creative writing and you probably didn&#8217;t understand that from our point of view your night out was anything but novel.<br />
all in all, my take on it is that you&#8217;re silly newbie custies more in need of sympathy and education than dragging through the mud.  you made the bad choice of trying to write about your first time at a strip club because you needed some eyebrow raising material and didn&#8217;t realize your freshmen antics were cringeworthy &#8211; especially with how much you felt the need to talk each other up in the article like a two lady circle jerk BUT, to both of you, come back and try again! if you don&#8217;t want to tip someone who you&#8217;re not interested in, that&#8217;s fine, just be polite about it. and watch your alcohol intake and don&#8217;t confuse bragging about your faux bad assery with good journalism. if you&#8217;re such a fan of sexworkers show it with your money and your words in a second strip club visit.<br />
love,<br />
story the stripper</p>
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		By: Elle		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/two-vice-writers-walk-into-a-bar/#comment-3505</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 04:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m so glad the original &#039;authors&#039; of the Vice bit actually read this. Perfect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad the original &#8216;authors&#8217; of the Vice bit actually read this. Perfect.</p>
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		By: Miss Dior Dandridge		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/two-vice-writers-walk-into-a-bar/#comment-3406</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miss Dior Dandridge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 03:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[stage fees should be illegal]]></description>
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		By: littlemissmonochrome		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/two-vice-writers-walk-into-a-bar/#comment-3405</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[littlemissmonochrome]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 03:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pumps is in Bushwick, no matter how many real estate agents try to sell that area as east Williamsburg (sorry, personal pet peeve). 

However, it does seem that what we have here is two overprivleged spoiled children wanting to get patted on the back for being &quot;bold&quot; and &quot;edgy&quot; for going to a stripclub in a somewhat rough around the edges neighborhood, while snickering at how bougie and above it all they are.

A dancer&#039;s job is based entirely on tips......if you prefer not to tip, you can visit any other regular bar/club...why is a simple gratuity  a problem for 2 ladies with supposed &quot;fat stacks&quot;? The dancers don&#039;t come into the Vice headquarters stomping your laptops with stilettos and drunkenly rampaging (though that might be a more interesting article than what the writers cooked up), you might want to show them the same courtesy by not fucking up their workday with obnoxious antics, or being so presumptuous that you think a dancer would need or want  to steal some article of clothing your mother bought you from your favorite shopping mall store back home.



(I also will say that even in their drunken ranting they did get one thing right.....the dancer they are probably referring to as the hot one is an extremely cool girl, and is a well known/respected fetish and bondage model also)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pumps is in Bushwick, no matter how many real estate agents try to sell that area as east Williamsburg (sorry, personal pet peeve). </p>
<p>However, it does seem that what we have here is two overprivleged spoiled children wanting to get patted on the back for being &#8220;bold&#8221; and &#8220;edgy&#8221; for going to a stripclub in a somewhat rough around the edges neighborhood, while snickering at how bougie and above it all they are.</p>
<p>A dancer&#8217;s job is based entirely on tips&#8230;&#8230;if you prefer not to tip, you can visit any other regular bar/club&#8230;why is a simple gratuity  a problem for 2 ladies with supposed &#8220;fat stacks&#8221;? The dancers don&#8217;t come into the Vice headquarters stomping your laptops with stilettos and drunkenly rampaging (though that might be a more interesting article than what the writers cooked up), you might want to show them the same courtesy by not fucking up their workday with obnoxious antics, or being so presumptuous that you think a dancer would need or want  to steal some article of clothing your mother bought you from your favorite shopping mall store back home.</p>
<p>(I also will say that even in their drunken ranting they did get one thing right&#8230;..the dancer they are probably referring to as the hot one is an extremely cool girl, and is a well known/respected fetish and bondage model also)</p>
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