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		By: Pym		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/the-stormy-daniels-effect-part-ii-post-sesta-fosta-edition/#comment-1185131</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pym]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2018 20:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/the-stormy-daniels-effect-part-ii-post-sesta-fosta-edition/#comment-1184199&quot;&gt;Serena&lt;/a&gt;.

Publication for sex workers publishes rhetoric encouraging &quot;ripping the mike away&quot; from sex workers. Cites Tumbler mantras as response to well-reasoned objection.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/the-stormy-daniels-effect-part-ii-post-sesta-fosta-edition/#comment-1184199">Serena</a>.</p>
<p>Publication for sex workers publishes rhetoric encouraging &#8220;ripping the mike away&#8221; from sex workers. Cites Tumbler mantras as response to well-reasoned objection.</p>
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		By: Peaches		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/the-stormy-daniels-effect-part-ii-post-sesta-fosta-edition/#comment-1184578</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peaches]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2018 05:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/the-stormy-daniels-effect-part-ii-post-sesta-fosta-edition/#comment-1184136&quot;&gt;FemmeAppeal&lt;/a&gt;.

Just to be clear, the Sex Party never gave a rats ass about sex worker rights. The Sex Party was funded by EROS which represents sex industry BOSSES, not workers. Never once did I hear them actually advocate for the decriminalisation of the sex industry. If they had any sincere interest in our rights they would have. Instead, in Victoria, they supported the licensing system that creates a two tiered legal system where some workers are criminised and others arent. Licensed brothel owners, who are members of Eros, benefit from sending the cops in to close up unlicensed businesses they compete with. They scare workers off working privately so the bosses can always get a cut. ASP is fucking scum. They might be the Reason Party now but it&#039;s my understanding that they are still deeply involved with Eros.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/the-stormy-daniels-effect-part-ii-post-sesta-fosta-edition/#comment-1184136">FemmeAppeal</a>.</p>
<p>Just to be clear, the Sex Party never gave a rats ass about sex worker rights. The Sex Party was funded by EROS which represents sex industry BOSSES, not workers. Never once did I hear them actually advocate for the decriminalisation of the sex industry. If they had any sincere interest in our rights they would have. Instead, in Victoria, they supported the licensing system that creates a two tiered legal system where some workers are criminised and others arent. Licensed brothel owners, who are members of Eros, benefit from sending the cops in to close up unlicensed businesses they compete with. They scare workers off working privately so the bosses can always get a cut. ASP is fucking scum. They might be the Reason Party now but it&#8217;s my understanding that they are still deeply involved with Eros.</p>
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		By: Anthony Kennerson		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/the-stormy-daniels-effect-part-ii-post-sesta-fosta-edition/#comment-1184433</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony Kennerson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2018 06:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As someone on the Independent Left (not a Democrat) who has strongly supported decriminalization of sex work, I have to take some exception to some of this article.

First off, Kamala Harris is not really &quot;the darling of the Left&quot;. Far from it, she is a neoliberal Democrat politician of color who has used sex work criminalization as a stepping stone for her career.

There are increasing numbers of people on the Left who are opening their eyes to the importance of sex work decriminalization and the intersectionality of sex work and other forms of economic and social inequality. Should they be consumed as well in your &quot;destruction of the Left&quot;? 

Stormy Daniels is no revolutionary, that is true: but if her actions against Donald Trump further expose the hypocrisy of those institutions that reinforce the current system, then more power to her. 

There is a radical, pro-sexworker Left that is out there. We do exist. Don&#039;t deny us, please.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone on the Independent Left (not a Democrat) who has strongly supported decriminalization of sex work, I have to take some exception to some of this article.</p>
<p>First off, Kamala Harris is not really &#8220;the darling of the Left&#8221;. Far from it, she is a neoliberal Democrat politician of color who has used sex work criminalization as a stepping stone for her career.</p>
<p>There are increasing numbers of people on the Left who are opening their eyes to the importance of sex work decriminalization and the intersectionality of sex work and other forms of economic and social inequality. Should they be consumed as well in your &#8220;destruction of the Left&#8221;? </p>
<p>Stormy Daniels is no revolutionary, that is true: but if her actions against Donald Trump further expose the hypocrisy of those institutions that reinforce the current system, then more power to her. </p>
<p>There is a radical, pro-sexworker Left that is out there. We do exist. Don&#8217;t deny us, please.</p>
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		By: Anon		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/the-stormy-daniels-effect-part-ii-post-sesta-fosta-edition/#comment-1184297</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2018 14:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/the-stormy-daniels-effect-part-ii-post-sesta-fosta-edition/#comment-1184199&quot;&gt;Serena&lt;/a&gt;.

Stormy Daniels has done nothing to bring attention to the plight of people affected by SESTA/FOSTA and is not likely to do so unless it starts affecting her business personally (which is absolutely a goal of some of the groups behind it), so she deserves to have the mic ripped away. Not that that will happen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/the-stormy-daniels-effect-part-ii-post-sesta-fosta-edition/#comment-1184199">Serena</a>.</p>
<p>Stormy Daniels has done nothing to bring attention to the plight of people affected by SESTA/FOSTA and is not likely to do so unless it starts affecting her business personally (which is absolutely a goal of some of the groups behind it), so she deserves to have the mic ripped away. Not that that will happen.</p>
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		By: Juniper Fitzgerald		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Juniper Fitzgerald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2018 18:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/the-stormy-daniels-effect-part-ii-post-sesta-fosta-edition/#comment-1184199&quot;&gt;Serena&lt;/a&gt;.

If you haven’t noticed, there is a finite amount of room at the table.  

And please stop saying “oppression Olympics.” People don’t spend their whole lives training to compete in oppression. That’s a narrative written by oppressors.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/the-stormy-daniels-effect-part-ii-post-sesta-fosta-edition/#comment-1184199">Serena</a>.</p>
<p>If you haven’t noticed, there is a finite amount of room at the table.  </p>
<p>And please stop saying “oppression Olympics.” People don’t spend their whole lives training to compete in oppression. That’s a narrative written by oppressors.</p>
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		By: Serena		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Serena]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2018 01:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why not take a &quot;yes and&quot; approach, and instead of being annoyed that a white, attractive etc, sex worker got some media attention, see it as a positive, a wedge that helps get sex workers in general through the door. Why the constant need to divide a movement of already universally stigmatized people against each other, so that we need to &quot;rip the mic&quot; away from any of us? This oppression olympics within our movements on the left has got to stop. It&#039;s so perfect for dividing us it almost seems like cointelpro.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not take a &#8220;yes and&#8221; approach, and instead of being annoyed that a white, attractive etc, sex worker got some media attention, see it as a positive, a wedge that helps get sex workers in general through the door. Why the constant need to divide a movement of already universally stigmatized people against each other, so that we need to &#8220;rip the mic&#8221; away from any of us? This oppression olympics within our movements on the left has got to stop. It&#8217;s so perfect for dividing us it almost seems like cointelpro.</p>
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		By: Kagehi		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/the-stormy-daniels-effect-part-ii-post-sesta-fosta-edition/#comment-1184179</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kagehi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2018 17:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Famous, white, celebrities, who basically take over progressive movements, then shove everyone else out of them, are **not** progressives. They are more like Sam Harris, Peterson, Dawkins, etc. claiming they are the &quot;epitome of atheists&quot;, while claiming that any attempt to address inequities, unjustices, etc. that both they, and religions (especially when they origination with those religions) support are either, &quot;Not something we need to solve, because they are natural, we have members that say it scientific!!&quot;, or, &quot;A distraction!&quot;

I agree with everything you say, other than that one mis-categorization. You can rob people actually trying to fix things of the title and leadership of being &quot;progressive&quot;, but that doesn&#039;t make you progressive. All it does is make it harder for people who honestly believe in the ideal to take the word back, and truly change things.

And, maybe that, in a disturbing, and even sometime unintentional, way is the point. We can fight, but without a word to use to say, &quot;This is what we stand for.&quot;, they can pull the same crap they did with protestors calling themselves Occupy - &quot;These people don&#039;t have a clear cause, so we, the people with power, can just ignore them, or put them down for being meaningless.&quot; So.. What clear message do we pick, if rich, white, famous, people have now latched on to &quot;progressive&quot;, and turned it into, &quot;Only our sort or progress, which doesn&#039;t include a thousand things that need to be changed/fixed.&quot;, call them out on this lie and fight back, or let them have the word? Because, for me, calling them out on this lie is &quot;far&quot; more important than trying to invent yet another new one, and having them successfully distort that as well, into something they can convince everyone to appose.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Famous, white, celebrities, who basically take over progressive movements, then shove everyone else out of them, are **not** progressives. They are more like Sam Harris, Peterson, Dawkins, etc. claiming they are the &#8220;epitome of atheists&#8221;, while claiming that any attempt to address inequities, unjustices, etc. that both they, and religions (especially when they origination with those religions) support are either, &#8220;Not something we need to solve, because they are natural, we have members that say it scientific!!&#8221;, or, &#8220;A distraction!&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with everything you say, other than that one mis-categorization. You can rob people actually trying to fix things of the title and leadership of being &#8220;progressive&#8221;, but that doesn&#8217;t make you progressive. All it does is make it harder for people who honestly believe in the ideal to take the word back, and truly change things.</p>
<p>And, maybe that, in a disturbing, and even sometime unintentional, way is the point. We can fight, but without a word to use to say, &#8220;This is what we stand for.&#8221;, they can pull the same crap they did with protestors calling themselves Occupy &#8211; &#8220;These people don&#8217;t have a clear cause, so we, the people with power, can just ignore them, or put them down for being meaningless.&#8221; So.. What clear message do we pick, if rich, white, famous, people have now latched on to &#8220;progressive&#8221;, and turned it into, &#8220;Only our sort or progress, which doesn&#8217;t include a thousand things that need to be changed/fixed.&#8221;, call them out on this lie and fight back, or let them have the word? Because, for me, calling them out on this lie is &#8220;far&#8221; more important than trying to invent yet another new one, and having them successfully distort that as well, into something they can convince everyone to appose.</p>
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		By: Juniper Fitzgerald		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/the-stormy-daniels-effect-part-ii-post-sesta-fosta-edition/#comment-1184173</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Juniper Fitzgerald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2018 15:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[so to clarify— I am hugely critical of the right, which in the USA, is nothing more than the personification of white supremacy, capitalism, imperialism, and heteropatriarchy. If you read this piece and thought I was advocating for sex workers to join the GOP, ummmmm NO. In the devastating aftermath of FOSTA and SESTA, I am now critiquing the political parties with which I have formerly aligned, because they failed me and my community.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so to clarify— I am hugely critical of the right, which in the USA, is nothing more than the personification of white supremacy, capitalism, imperialism, and heteropatriarchy. If you read this piece and thought I was advocating for sex workers to join the GOP, ummmmm NO. In the devastating aftermath of FOSTA and SESTA, I am now critiquing the political parties with which I have formerly aligned, because they failed me and my community.</p>
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		By: Juniper Fitzgerald		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/the-stormy-daniels-effect-part-ii-post-sesta-fosta-edition/#comment-1184171</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Juniper Fitzgerald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2018 15:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/the-stormy-daniels-effect-part-ii-post-sesta-fosta-edition/#comment-1184170&quot;&gt;Juniper Fitzgerald&lt;/a&gt;.

Eradicating the right, that is. To the point mentioning something about an obtuse question— apologies, but I don’t follow your comment. Thanks for reading though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/the-stormy-daniels-effect-part-ii-post-sesta-fosta-edition/#comment-1184170">Juniper Fitzgerald</a>.</p>
<p>Eradicating the right, that is. To the point mentioning something about an obtuse question— apologies, but I don’t follow your comment. Thanks for reading though.</p>
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		By: Juniper Fitzgerald		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Juniper Fitzgerald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2018 15:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/the-stormy-daniels-effect-part-ii-post-sesta-fosta-edition/#comment-1184124&quot;&gt;Sheldon Ranz&lt;/a&gt;.

I think that goes without saying.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/the-stormy-daniels-effect-part-ii-post-sesta-fosta-edition/#comment-1184124">Sheldon Ranz</a>.</p>
<p>I think that goes without saying.</p>
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