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		By: Velvet		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Velvet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/the-peculiar-political-economics-of-pro-domming/#comment-1110298&quot;&gt;LoriAdorable&lt;/a&gt;.

Ah damned! I didn´t get a notification on your reply and now 9 months passed before I see your comment!
The whore-archy is well and alive in germany as well (sadly), because many sexworkers do not identify as sexworkers, or at least not as prostitutes. Most pro dommes do, but tantra people are very busy to seperate them from sex work. The new law is actually including everyone performing sexually as sexworker, as long as the client is in the room and engaged in some activity as well. Intercourse is not necessary. Excluded are cam workers, porn performers and strippers. Included are tantric practitioners. 

I frequently discuss things with US based sexworkers as well, and am also astonished how far pro-dommes set themselves aside from sexworkers in the states. IMHO this is ridiculous. But the fact that different forms of sexual labor are differently criminalized brings sense into that. 

Prime example of divide et impera!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/the-peculiar-political-economics-of-pro-domming/#comment-1110298">LoriAdorable</a>.</p>
<p>Ah damned! I didn´t get a notification on your reply and now 9 months passed before I see your comment!<br />
The whore-archy is well and alive in germany as well (sadly), because many sexworkers do not identify as sexworkers, or at least not as prostitutes. Most pro dommes do, but tantra people are very busy to seperate them from sex work. The new law is actually including everyone performing sexually as sexworker, as long as the client is in the room and engaged in some activity as well. Intercourse is not necessary. Excluded are cam workers, porn performers and strippers. Included are tantric practitioners. </p>
<p>I frequently discuss things with US based sexworkers as well, and am also astonished how far pro-dommes set themselves aside from sexworkers in the states. IMHO this is ridiculous. But the fact that different forms of sexual labor are differently criminalized brings sense into that. </p>
<p>Prime example of divide et impera!</p>
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		By: 2016&#8217;s Best Sex Work Writing — Tits and Sass		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2016 15:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] The Peculiar Political Economics of Pro-Domming by Lori Adorable Adorable is at her brilliant best here inquiring why pro-dommes confuse the paid performance of control with material power: &#8220;I&#8230;don’t see how a half dozen or so fin-dommes have transformed &#8216;fuck you, pay me&#8217; dirty talk into a semi-coherent rhetoric of wealth redistribution on certain strains of social justice Twitter.&#8221; [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The Peculiar Political Economics of Pro-Domming by Lori Adorable Adorable is at her brilliant best here inquiring why pro-dommes confuse the paid performance of control with material power: &#8220;I&#8230;don’t see how a half dozen or so fin-dommes have transformed &#8216;fuck you, pay me&#8217; dirty talk into a semi-coherent rhetoric of wealth redistribution on certain strains of social justice Twitter.&#8221; [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Devlynn DeSade		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Devlynn DeSade]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2016 16:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/the-peculiar-political-economics-of-pro-domming/#comment-1110345&quot;&gt;Fornicatrix&lt;/a&gt;.

Finally telling it like it is. Several times when trying to discuss actual issues with other dominas as simple as time management or burnout I am flippantly shunned by their queen persona that denies reality. Example: have you ever dealt with burnout since you have been doing this for several years? 
&quot; no I love beating men with sticks I get to beat men sticks&quot;,  Marilyn monroe voice and all.
Okay, sorry you can&#039;t have a real fruitful conversation because you actually believe your own bullshit. 
Look at the lives of fellow dommes, the gritty reality, the arrests, seizures of property and lets have a real conversation.  Look at the actual money that you make instead of the money you like to take pictures with on Twitter.  Some have even dealt with arrests and still can&#039;t reconcile the fact that they are a queen to so many men but they are just a criminal and sex worker to everyone else.
Reality is Harsh sometimes as a woman in this world and a sex worker but living in a false reality is not only f****** joke it is harmful. Look at our sisters who have committed suicide, and our sisters who suffer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/the-peculiar-political-economics-of-pro-domming/#comment-1110345">Fornicatrix</a>.</p>
<p>Finally telling it like it is. Several times when trying to discuss actual issues with other dominas as simple as time management or burnout I am flippantly shunned by their queen persona that denies reality. Example: have you ever dealt with burnout since you have been doing this for several years?<br />
&#8221; no I love beating men with sticks I get to beat men sticks&#8221;,  Marilyn monroe voice and all.<br />
Okay, sorry you can&#8217;t have a real fruitful conversation because you actually believe your own bullshit.<br />
Look at the lives of fellow dommes, the gritty reality, the arrests, seizures of property and lets have a real conversation.  Look at the actual money that you make instead of the money you like to take pictures with on Twitter.  Some have even dealt with arrests and still can&#8217;t reconcile the fact that they are a queen to so many men but they are just a criminal and sex worker to everyone else.<br />
Reality is Harsh sometimes as a woman in this world and a sex worker but living in a false reality is not only f****** joke it is harmful. Look at our sisters who have committed suicide, and our sisters who suffer.</p>
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		By: Fornicatrix		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fornicatrix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2016 22:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was waiting for this article for a long time, thankyou for writing it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was waiting for this article for a long time, thankyou for writing it.</p>
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		By: LoriAdorable		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2016 18:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/the-peculiar-political-economics-of-pro-domming/#comment-1110279&quot;&gt;Velvet&lt;/a&gt;.

This piece only applies to the particular political economics of U.S. pro-domming, since the whole concept of political economy is based on how state regulation influences economics, and I can&#039;t speak to the state regulations in Germany. It&#039;s really interesting hearing this perspective, though. It makes me reconsider how much of our shitty U.S. discourse is really based on getting caught up in the affective labor of pro-domming and how much of it is a tactic for distancing ourselves from more heavily criminalized forms of sexual labor. If both pro-domming and escorting were legal, for example, would we be so invested in distancing ourselves from escorts? Probably not!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/the-peculiar-political-economics-of-pro-domming/#comment-1110279">Velvet</a>.</p>
<p>This piece only applies to the particular political economics of U.S. pro-domming, since the whole concept of political economy is based on how state regulation influences economics, and I can&#8217;t speak to the state regulations in Germany. It&#8217;s really interesting hearing this perspective, though. It makes me reconsider how much of our shitty U.S. discourse is really based on getting caught up in the affective labor of pro-domming and how much of it is a tactic for distancing ourselves from more heavily criminalized forms of sexual labor. If both pro-domming and escorting were legal, for example, would we be so invested in distancing ourselves from escorts? Probably not!</p>
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		By: AliceInBondageLand		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2016 17:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great article, especially your conclusions about how distancing from the sex worker community robs prodoms of resources that they &quot;don&#039;t know that they need.&quot;

It seems like a rite of passage for many prodoms is to go through a phase where we &quot;drink our own koolaid&quot; or &quot;read our own press releases&quot; and believe the rhetoric.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, especially your conclusions about how distancing from the sex worker community robs prodoms of resources that they &#8220;don&#8217;t know that they need.&#8221;</p>
<p>It seems like a rite of passage for many prodoms is to go through a phase where we &#8220;drink our own koolaid&#8221; or &#8220;read our own press releases&#8221; and believe the rhetoric.</p>
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		By: Velvet		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Velvet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2016 16:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I disagree with your last two chapters. But also I am sitting in germany. 
BDSM workers identify mostly as sexworkers and many of us are also organized in sex worker right groups and engage in activism, without making differences to &quot;other&quot; sexwork. We identify as whores as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with your last two chapters. But also I am sitting in germany.<br />
BDSM workers identify mostly as sexworkers and many of us are also organized in sex worker right groups and engage in activism, without making differences to &#8220;other&#8221; sexwork. We identify as whores as well.</p>
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