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		By: maryann660ac		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[it is a lifestyle choice and i prefer the usage word whore i love the hours the pay the attention i get the customers i just wish it was legal]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is a lifestyle choice and i prefer the usage word whore i love the hours the pay the attention i get the customers i just wish it was legal</p>
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		By: “I feel used” – Behind the scenes of Groove Korea’s cover story &#124; Research Project Korea		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[“I feel used” – Behind the scenes of Groove Korea’s cover story &#124; Research Project Korea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2015 19:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] got to do with it?” by Lizzie Smith, Research Officer at La Trobe University. See also “The P-Word: A 101” by Caty [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] got to do with it?” by Lizzie Smith, Research Officer at La Trobe University. See also “The P-Word: A 101” by Caty [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Matthias Lehmann		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2015 00:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just FYI, a British member of parliament has launched an initiative to end the use of the outdated term ‘child prostitution’. Actually, the statements in this article has her and others agree that &#039;prostitution&#039; is a lifestyle choice and that &#039;prostitute&#039; is a stigmatising term (whether or not they think so for the right reasons is another question, of course).

[1] http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jan/06/child-prostitution-term-outdated-mp-ann-coffey
[2] http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/stockport-ann-coffey-child-prostitution-8387973]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just FYI, a British member of parliament has launched an initiative to end the use of the outdated term ‘child prostitution’. Actually, the statements in this article has her and others agree that &#8216;prostitution&#8217; is a lifestyle choice and that &#8216;prostitute&#8217; is a stigmatising term (whether or not they think so for the right reasons is another question, of course).</p>
<p>[1] <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jan/06/child-prostitution-term-outdated-mp-ann-coffey" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jan/06/child-prostitution-term-outdated-mp-ann-coffey</a><br />
[2] <a href="http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/stockport-ann-coffey-child-prostitution-8387973" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/stockport-ann-coffey-child-prostitution-8387973</a></p>
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		By: Caty Simon		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/the-p-word-101/#comment-530675</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2014 22:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/the-p-word-101/#comment-423220&quot;&gt;Caty Simon&lt;/a&gt;.

Also, I&#039;m removing the word &quot;erstwhile&quot; from my description of Annie Sprinkle given that it  doesn&#039;t reflect the ongoing work she does for sex workers, and also carries unsavory connotations.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/the-p-word-101/#comment-423220">Caty Simon</a>.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m removing the word &#8220;erstwhile&#8221; from my description of Annie Sprinkle given that it  doesn&#8217;t reflect the ongoing work she does for sex workers, and also carries unsavory connotations.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Cherry		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/the-p-word-101/#comment-479152</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2014 17:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/the-p-word-101/#comment-390317&quot;&gt;LiaBelle&lt;/a&gt;.

Agreed! Calling us &quot;workers&quot; is messed up. While we definitely do work, we are not on a salary and not guaranteed to earn money on every shift. It is a weird thing, this sort of work. I &quot;work&quot; for an agency,  meaning they take a cut of my earnings, they have rules that must be followed, etc in exchange for safety from both police and bad clients. However, if we don&#039;t &quot;break&quot; during a shift, we dont get paid for just &quot;going to work&quot; like a salaried or hourly employee does. (&quot;Break&quot; means to get your first client of your shift, at least in my area)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/the-p-word-101/#comment-390317">LiaBelle</a>.</p>
<p>Agreed! Calling us &#8220;workers&#8221; is messed up. While we definitely do work, we are not on a salary and not guaranteed to earn money on every shift. It is a weird thing, this sort of work. I &#8220;work&#8221; for an agency,  meaning they take a cut of my earnings, they have rules that must be followed, etc in exchange for safety from both police and bad clients. However, if we don&#8217;t &#8220;break&#8221; during a shift, we dont get paid for just &#8220;going to work&#8221; like a salaried or hourly employee does. (&#8220;Break&#8221; means to get your first client of your shift, at least in my area)</p>
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		By: Caty Simon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2014 00:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/the-p-word-101/#comment-394604&quot;&gt;Veronica Vera&lt;/a&gt;.

I do actually regret using the Sprinkle/Fantasies That Matter Conflict as an example of former sex workers using &quot;prostitute&quot; against current sex workers now, since there were other more appropriate examples I could&#039;ve used, and there was no need to use incendiary language and escalate the conflict that lingered from last summer. 
I&#039;ve since spoken to Carol Leigh about her experiences at the conference, and it seems things were a lot more complicated than they appeared to those of us who didn&#039;t attend.
So readers looking for different perspectives on the conference besides the post by Lane Champagne I linked in which she comments on the Facebook discussion that follows the conference can start here by looking at this post by a German sex worker participant: 
http://researchprojectgermany.wordpress.com/2014/08/26/guest-post-the-talking-whore/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/the-p-word-101/#comment-394604">Veronica Vera</a>.</p>
<p>I do actually regret using the Sprinkle/Fantasies That Matter Conflict as an example of former sex workers using &#8220;prostitute&#8221; against current sex workers now, since there were other more appropriate examples I could&#8217;ve used, and there was no need to use incendiary language and escalate the conflict that lingered from last summer.<br />
I&#8217;ve since spoken to Carol Leigh about her experiences at the conference, and it seems things were a lot more complicated than they appeared to those of us who didn&#8217;t attend.<br />
So readers looking for different perspectives on the conference besides the post by Lane Champagne I linked in which she comments on the Facebook discussion that follows the conference can start here by looking at this post by a German sex worker participant:<br />
<a href="http://researchprojectgermany.wordpress.com/2014/08/26/guest-post-the-talking-whore/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://researchprojectgermany.wordpress.com/2014/08/26/guest-post-the-talking-whore/</a></p>
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		By: Veronica Vera		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2014 22:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yet Another Gratuitous Use of Annie Sprinkle

In an issue of “Tits &#038; Sass” dated March 11. 2013 Caty Simon and Jessie reviewed issue #1 of Pros(e) the sex worker anthology published by the Red Umbrella Project.  I was one of twelve contributors to the anthology.  The review was in the form of a conversation and took up nearly 2800 words. My piece was the final one reviewed and of the 800 or so words in the section , half were used to disparage someone who was not a contributor to the anthology. You used the review of my piece  as a jumping off point from which to disparage the work of my best friend Annie Sprinkle. Now,  in this P-word post, you’ve done it again.

When I read that review of Pros(e) at the time it was posted, I decided not to respond because while I found a few useful suggestions, I felt any response at the time would just gain you more readers. I am speaking up now because you have continued to use this blog to bully and vilify my best friend. Enough is enough.

From Tits &#038; Sass, 3/11/13:
&quot;Caty: I have to say I don’t like Annie Sprinkle’s new age approach, and I find her to be classist sometimes, but she did a lot for the sex workers’ rights movement.
Jessie: I appreciate the inclusion of sex work activism history. I was fascinated by the second part about (Vera’s) testifying in front of the Senate! I would have loved more focus on that!
However, Annie Sprinkle’s version of sex work activism is VERY well documented and almost constantly celebrated, even revered, in sex work activist communities. I feel like that focus comes at the expense of other voices and efforts. There were AIDS activists concerned with queer sex, porn, and sex work in the 80s as well, sex workers of color organizing, and there have always been sex workers involved in anti-racist and anti-poverty movements. I’m feeling burned out and seriously bothered devoting more time, space, and hero worship to the same people.&quot;

And there’s more. Bottom line, 15% of the article was devoted to Annie Sprinkle, a person whom you already thinks gets too much press. It seems to me you are using Annie to call attention to your own agenda, a scramble for the top, which I find to be one that separates colleagues. Since that review, perhaps even prior, and certainly after, most notably this most recent post on the word Prostitute, you have continued to criticize and viciously condemn Annie Sprinkle at every opportunity.  You use her name just as some trangender activists jumped on RuPaul to call attention to their feelings about the word “tranny.” Here, you use Annie’s name as a tag word and linked to an even more insulting article. 
In the P-word article you also refer to Annie as an “erstwhile movement leader.” Much as you would like it to be so, in the minds and hearts of many, there is nothing “erstwhile” about Annie’s leadership. She still responds when called. For years now, she has focused her time on her own projects, but her work and her contributions to the sex workers’ rights movement are as you say “celebrated, revered and documented” and many sex workers see her as a mentor, respect and admire her. And that is something your words can never take away. In fact, you belittle yourselves in the attempt.
You can do better]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet Another Gratuitous Use of Annie Sprinkle</p>
<p>In an issue of “Tits &amp; Sass” dated March 11. 2013 Caty Simon and Jessie reviewed issue #1 of Pros(e) the sex worker anthology published by the Red Umbrella Project.  I was one of twelve contributors to the anthology.  The review was in the form of a conversation and took up nearly 2800 words. My piece was the final one reviewed and of the 800 or so words in the section , half were used to disparage someone who was not a contributor to the anthology. You used the review of my piece  as a jumping off point from which to disparage the work of my best friend Annie Sprinkle. Now,  in this P-word post, you’ve done it again.</p>
<p>When I read that review of Pros(e) at the time it was posted, I decided not to respond because while I found a few useful suggestions, I felt any response at the time would just gain you more readers. I am speaking up now because you have continued to use this blog to bully and vilify my best friend. Enough is enough.</p>
<p>From Tits &amp; Sass, 3/11/13:<br />
&#8220;Caty: I have to say I don’t like Annie Sprinkle’s new age approach, and I find her to be classist sometimes, but she did a lot for the sex workers’ rights movement.<br />
Jessie: I appreciate the inclusion of sex work activism history. I was fascinated by the second part about (Vera’s) testifying in front of the Senate! I would have loved more focus on that!<br />
However, Annie Sprinkle’s version of sex work activism is VERY well documented and almost constantly celebrated, even revered, in sex work activist communities. I feel like that focus comes at the expense of other voices and efforts. There were AIDS activists concerned with queer sex, porn, and sex work in the 80s as well, sex workers of color organizing, and there have always been sex workers involved in anti-racist and anti-poverty movements. I’m feeling burned out and seriously bothered devoting more time, space, and hero worship to the same people.&#8221;</p>
<p>And there’s more. Bottom line, 15% of the article was devoted to Annie Sprinkle, a person whom you already thinks gets too much press. It seems to me you are using Annie to call attention to your own agenda, a scramble for the top, which I find to be one that separates colleagues. Since that review, perhaps even prior, and certainly after, most notably this most recent post on the word Prostitute, you have continued to criticize and viciously condemn Annie Sprinkle at every opportunity.  You use her name just as some trangender activists jumped on RuPaul to call attention to their feelings about the word “tranny.” Here, you use Annie’s name as a tag word and linked to an even more insulting article.<br />
In the P-word article you also refer to Annie as an “erstwhile movement leader.” Much as you would like it to be so, in the minds and hearts of many, there is nothing “erstwhile” about Annie’s leadership. She still responds when called. For years now, she has focused her time on her own projects, but her work and her contributions to the sex workers’ rights movement are as you say “celebrated, revered and documented” and many sex workers see her as a mentor, respect and admire her. And that is something your words can never take away. In fact, you belittle yourselves in the attempt.<br />
You can do better</p>
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		By: LiaBelle		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2014 22:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Apologies if this comment goes off the subject.  I don&#039;t have a great suggestion to this ongoing question of what to call ourselves either I&#039;m afraid.  When someone asks me what I would like to be known as I say LiaBelle.  I am LiaBelle.  What I do is erotic massage and sometimes full service as a solo operation.  It is actually the term &quot;worker&quot; that I think is misleading and that I don&#039;t connect to.  I have never met a sex &quot;worker&quot;.  I have never met anyone employed on a salary,  an hourly rate,  on a payroll (apart from management)  We are all independent aren&#039;t we?  We run businesses with varying degrees of autonomy.  We  pay agents,  hire workplaces,  sometimes market ourselves.  We own the means of production (of income)  Legalisation,  rather than decriminalisation,  for example in Victoria,  Australia often leads to this weird situation where even though we have no fixed income or benefits and are sole traders we have to submit to the demands of brothel owners if we want to work on an incall basis.  If we had more options we would be able to call the shots and pick and choose the premises to work in according to what they are offering e.g. rent,  facilities,  reception etc.  rather than buckle down for fear of losing our &quot;job&quot;  which is how it felt at times in Victorian brothels for me.  The term sex worker makes me feel under the thumb of brothel/agency owners.  Since realising I am independent I have never been happier with my choice of service.  By the way I don&#039;t believe that being a worker is in anyway lesser than being a solo business,  but the fact is we on the whole are solo businesses.  The same setup exists for many other services such as massage therapist,  hairdresser,  etc.  who work in establishments but are actually sole traders.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies if this comment goes off the subject.  I don&#8217;t have a great suggestion to this ongoing question of what to call ourselves either I&#8217;m afraid.  When someone asks me what I would like to be known as I say LiaBelle.  I am LiaBelle.  What I do is erotic massage and sometimes full service as a solo operation.  It is actually the term &#8220;worker&#8221; that I think is misleading and that I don&#8217;t connect to.  I have never met a sex &#8220;worker&#8221;.  I have never met anyone employed on a salary,  an hourly rate,  on a payroll (apart from management)  We are all independent aren&#8217;t we?  We run businesses with varying degrees of autonomy.  We  pay agents,  hire workplaces,  sometimes market ourselves.  We own the means of production (of income)  Legalisation,  rather than decriminalisation,  for example in Victoria,  Australia often leads to this weird situation where even though we have no fixed income or benefits and are sole traders we have to submit to the demands of brothel owners if we want to work on an incall basis.  If we had more options we would be able to call the shots and pick and choose the premises to work in according to what they are offering e.g. rent,  facilities,  reception etc.  rather than buckle down for fear of losing our &#8220;job&#8221;  which is how it felt at times in Victorian brothels for me.  The term sex worker makes me feel under the thumb of brothel/agency owners.  Since realising I am independent I have never been happier with my choice of service.  By the way I don&#8217;t believe that being a worker is in anyway lesser than being a solo business,  but the fact is we on the whole are solo businesses.  The same setup exists for many other services such as massage therapist,  hairdresser,  etc.  who work in establishments but are actually sole traders.</p>
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		By: Sophia Seductions		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2014 16:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[agreed - and many many more.... Personally I prefer Adult Entertainment...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agreed &#8211; and many many more&#8230;. Personally I prefer Adult Entertainment&#8230;</p>
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		By: A Machine		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/the-p-word-101/#comment-389332</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2014 16:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Major news sources in my locality switched to &quot;sex worker&quot; a while ago here, and being a fairly ambiguous term it threw me off a little.  I was opposed to the term initially since I assumed it was created from a negative standpoint, so this article was educational.

That said, once it catches on isn&#039;t it just going to be used in the same way &quot;prostitute&quot; is used now?  The stigma is attached to the concept, not the syllables.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Major news sources in my locality switched to &#8220;sex worker&#8221; a while ago here, and being a fairly ambiguous term it threw me off a little.  I was opposed to the term initially since I assumed it was created from a negative standpoint, so this article was educational.</p>
<p>That said, once it catches on isn&#8217;t it just going to be used in the same way &#8220;prostitute&#8221; is used now?  The stigma is attached to the concept, not the syllables.</p>
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