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		By: Elle		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 05:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry, I&#039;m still stuck on lap dance to 13 year old boy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I&#8217;m still stuck on lap dance to 13 year old boy.</p>
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		By: Priscilla		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 00:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My mom worked in strip clubs throughout my childhood. She cocktailed. She ended up marrying a cousin of a club owner with whom she had worked for many years (the club owner, not the cousin.) And via that marriage, I was for a few years part of this big extended family of Persian strip club owners, and by extension the community of strip club owners and workers in our city. 

AND THEY WERE A MESS.

There really is something to an assertion that strip club families are dysfunctional families. I think maybe it is because the constant exposure to the business blurs the lines of appropriateness. I was &quot;asked&quot; (read: bullied into) to come in and waitress in the club when I was only 16; that could have brought the club down and also left me with a felony conviction. My sister was offered jobs in the club too, when she was a minor. There is this weird idea that because you&#039;re family, it isn&#039;t a big deal to expose kids to this stuff. But imo it is a big deal. 

I think also that the cultural more of club owners marrying dancers creates an environment of competition. The owner marries a dancer, and she has won the stripper lottery, but coming into a marriage that way smacks of winning a beauty contest: she has always to look out for less-scrupulous strippers who think they can be her replacement, and she can&#039;t be sure that they aren&#039;t right. And it rubs off on their daughters, and so does the strange double standard of the business, which is that it is ok for other women to be strippers, but it sure as shit isn&#039;t ok for YOU, my daughter, to be a stripper. Even though your mom was. 

It is weird and messy and I do see a connection even if the filmmaker was not able to communicate the connection well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mom worked in strip clubs throughout my childhood. She cocktailed. She ended up marrying a cousin of a club owner with whom she had worked for many years (the club owner, not the cousin.) And via that marriage, I was for a few years part of this big extended family of Persian strip club owners, and by extension the community of strip club owners and workers in our city. </p>
<p>AND THEY WERE A MESS.</p>
<p>There really is something to an assertion that strip club families are dysfunctional families. I think maybe it is because the constant exposure to the business blurs the lines of appropriateness. I was &#8220;asked&#8221; (read: bullied into) to come in and waitress in the club when I was only 16; that could have brought the club down and also left me with a felony conviction. My sister was offered jobs in the club too, when she was a minor. There is this weird idea that because you&#8217;re family, it isn&#8217;t a big deal to expose kids to this stuff. But imo it is a big deal. </p>
<p>I think also that the cultural more of club owners marrying dancers creates an environment of competition. The owner marries a dancer, and she has won the stripper lottery, but coming into a marriage that way smacks of winning a beauty contest: she has always to look out for less-scrupulous strippers who think they can be her replacement, and she can&#8217;t be sure that they aren&#8217;t right. And it rubs off on their daughters, and so does the strange double standard of the business, which is that it is ok for other women to be strippers, but it sure as shit isn&#8217;t ok for YOU, my daughter, to be a stripper. Even though your mom was. </p>
<p>It is weird and messy and I do see a connection even if the filmmaker was not able to communicate the connection well.</p>
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		By: Bubbles		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/the-manor-2013/#comment-6746</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 17:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So, I liked this better than you did in part because I thought Bobby was a hoot. Until the domestic violence charge. Agreed that Shawney sees himself at a distance but I think he&#039;s fairly honest about his own shortcomings and doesn&#039;t think he&#039;s too good to be there, rather that he&#039;s just coasting. It is disappointing and low-drama that it ends with no real changes, but that is true to life. And he doesn&#039;t try to present his dad as anything other than he is, which is a sexist, old-country fat fuck. 

Same on wondering about how they got the dancers&#039; permissions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I liked this better than you did in part because I thought Bobby was a hoot. Until the domestic violence charge. Agreed that Shawney sees himself at a distance but I think he&#8217;s fairly honest about his own shortcomings and doesn&#8217;t think he&#8217;s too good to be there, rather that he&#8217;s just coasting. It is disappointing and low-drama that it ends with no real changes, but that is true to life. And he doesn&#8217;t try to present his dad as anything other than he is, which is a sexist, old-country fat fuck. </p>
<p>Same on wondering about how they got the dancers&#8217; permissions.</p>
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