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		By: Juliet		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Juliet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2012 08:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/sugarbabe-kat-commiserates-with-a-friend/#comment-334&quot;&gt;Aiko&lt;/a&gt;.

Your comment reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where Elaine makes fun of a woman she works with and gets accused of being catty. It escalates to physical threats but the police only respond to her complaint with “rawrr” and “cat fight”. Would it have been better for you if two men were together bashing a woman? Or two women against one man? Women can disagree with other women and it doesn’t immediately have to be bitchy, especially because they even backed up their issues with the book with actual quotes. 

I don’t think this had anything to do with saying that this Holly woman doesn’t ‘qualify’ as a sex-worker, it’s more that she is a bad one, which is also backed up by the book. If you are concerned with sex workers uniting perhaps you should think about how you want the industry portrayed to the wider public. I don’t want Holly to represent sex workers of any kind, she engages in dangerous sexual activities, she regularly has sex with a guy who admitted he never intended on paying her, she is barely able to pay her bills and has absolutely no boundaries. If a client or sugardaddy reads this book the only takeaway is that you can bully some girls into doing whatever you want. Sometimes with little bullying at all!

I take my business and safety seriously, and I am constantly worrying about how this industry is portrayed. If people can write nonsense that ends up in the mainstream and remains unchallenged, then that’s all the outside world hears about us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/sugarbabe-kat-commiserates-with-a-friend/#comment-334">Aiko</a>.</p>
<p>Your comment reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where Elaine makes fun of a woman she works with and gets accused of being catty. It escalates to physical threats but the police only respond to her complaint with “rawrr” and “cat fight”. Would it have been better for you if two men were together bashing a woman? Or two women against one man? Women can disagree with other women and it doesn’t immediately have to be bitchy, especially because they even backed up their issues with the book with actual quotes. </p>
<p>I don’t think this had anything to do with saying that this Holly woman doesn’t ‘qualify’ as a sex-worker, it’s more that she is a bad one, which is also backed up by the book. If you are concerned with sex workers uniting perhaps you should think about how you want the industry portrayed to the wider public. I don’t want Holly to represent sex workers of any kind, she engages in dangerous sexual activities, she regularly has sex with a guy who admitted he never intended on paying her, she is barely able to pay her bills and has absolutely no boundaries. If a client or sugardaddy reads this book the only takeaway is that you can bully some girls into doing whatever you want. Sometimes with little bullying at all!</p>
<p>I take my business and safety seriously, and I am constantly worrying about how this industry is portrayed. If people can write nonsense that ends up in the mainstream and remains unchallenged, then that’s all the outside world hears about us.</p>
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		By: Sugarbabies Unite! (sort of.)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sugarbabies Unite! (sort of.)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 12:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] I think hunting for a sugardaddy is the worst task on the planet, as Holly Hill [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I think hunting for a sugardaddy is the worst task on the planet, as Holly Hill [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Sleeping Beauty (2011)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sleeping Beauty (2011)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 15:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] color exactly? And are we talking inner or outer? Don&#8217;t Australians call their labia &#8220;flaps&#8220;? Coming soon to a Sephora near you: Nars &#8220;My Flaps&#8221; line of blush and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] color exactly? And are we talking inner or outer? Don&#8217;t Australians call their labia &#8220;flaps&#8220;? Coming soon to a Sephora near you: Nars &#8220;My Flaps&#8221; line of blush and [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: mumtaza		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/sugarbabe-kat-commiserates-with-a-friend/#comment-1340</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mumtaza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is one of the funniest pieces I&#039;ve ever read! Keep it coming!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the funniest pieces I&#8217;ve ever read! Keep it coming!!</p>
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		By: MTV&#8217;s True Life Confirms that Sugarbabydom is a Hassle &#124; Tits and Sass		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MTV&#8217;s True Life Confirms that Sugarbabydom is a Hassle &#124; Tits and Sass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 18:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] crises, and shattered hopes. For more on this topic, please see Sugarbabies Unite! (Sort of.) and Sugarbabe: Kat Commiserates With a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] crises, and shattered hopes. For more on this topic, please see Sugarbabies Unite! (Sort of.) and Sugarbabe: Kat Commiserates With a [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Olivia Quiver		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Olivia Quiver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 01:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Love this. You ladies are great. I didn&#039;t even read the book (although now I&#039;m curious),but I still wish I could have been there with you drinking a bottle of wine and having this conversation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this. You ladies are great. I didn&#8217;t even read the book (although now I&#8217;m curious),but I still wish I could have been there with you drinking a bottle of wine and having this conversation.</p>
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		By: Elle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 02:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I bought this about two weeks ago, and haven&#039;t gotten past pg. 35. I&#039;m interested to see how I feel after completing it, (which I will), but I was feeling pretty critical of her writing and thought processes even at the beginning.... I hope that doesn&#039;t make me an asshole.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought this about two weeks ago, and haven&#8217;t gotten past pg. 35. I&#8217;m interested to see how I feel after completing it, (which I will), but I was feeling pretty critical of her writing and thought processes even at the beginning&#8230;. I hope that doesn&#8217;t make me an asshole.</p>
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		By: carly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[carly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 23:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I read this book last summer after being recruited off the street to attend a sugar daddy dating website&#039;s event (I DO NOT recommend using those sites to any non sex worker girls unless you are comfortable with the sexpectations and can consider this book a cautionary tale)

I laughed out loud, at my cubicle, no less than 6 times while reading this post, I couldn&#039;t agree more, I saw a picture of the woman in a Marie Claire and she&#039;s gorgeous for her age but DELUSIONAL AS FUCK. My favorite was how she tried to jump on the &quot;it&#039;s EMPOWERING&quot; bandwagon, like women doing pole dance classes while still judging strippers. What is so &quot;empowering&quot; about pissing away all your ill gotten money when you know there&#039;s a 99% change your latest sponsor will ditch you without courtesy and you&#039;ll be paying your mortgage late fee yet again, cause you had to have your gourmet cheese, overpriced wine and designer fashion???]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this book last summer after being recruited off the street to attend a sugar daddy dating website&#8217;s event (I DO NOT recommend using those sites to any non sex worker girls unless you are comfortable with the sexpectations and can consider this book a cautionary tale)</p>
<p>I laughed out loud, at my cubicle, no less than 6 times while reading this post, I couldn&#8217;t agree more, I saw a picture of the woman in a Marie Claire and she&#8217;s gorgeous for her age but DELUSIONAL AS FUCK. My favorite was how she tried to jump on the &#8220;it&#8217;s EMPOWERING&#8221; bandwagon, like women doing pole dance classes while still judging strippers. What is so &#8220;empowering&#8221; about pissing away all your ill gotten money when you know there&#8217;s a 99% change your latest sponsor will ditch you without courtesy and you&#8217;ll be paying your mortgage late fee yet again, cause you had to have your gourmet cheese, overpriced wine and designer fashion???</p>
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		By: Aiko		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 15:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, I guess I&#039;m with Madeline and Lucy on this one. I think it&#039;s the format
 of this piece, perhaps more than the content, that rubs me the wrong way.
 Something about two women getting together and shamelessly bashing a third is unsettling. It does start off as a funny, irreverent book review but
then dissolves into gratuitous shit-talking. I mean criticizing someone is fine and she probably deserves it, but then you write lines like this: &quot;Her
father was killed by his wife…who I guess was not her mother? No wonder
 she has weird wife issues.&quot; I mean, that&#039;s tragic and quite a hateful
comment. It&#039;s &quot;pretty weak sauce,&quot; as they say. It also draws attention
 away from your critique of her work, making your (mostly astute) comments  less poignant because, by the end, it just sounds catty and hateful. I wish I saw more solidarity among women making their living this way—yes, even though I know Holly doesn&#039;t quite consider herself &quot;one of us.&quot; We already get a ton of shit from the outside world, and while it&#039;s not unreasonable to critique Holly&#039;s misguided attempts and inflated sense of self, your critique would be sharper if it was given more respectfully.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I guess I&#8217;m with Madeline and Lucy on this one. I think it&#8217;s the format<br />
 of this piece, perhaps more than the content, that rubs me the wrong way.<br />
 Something about two women getting together and shamelessly bashing a third is unsettling. It does start off as a funny, irreverent book review but<br />
then dissolves into gratuitous shit-talking. I mean criticizing someone is fine and she probably deserves it, but then you write lines like this: &#8220;Her<br />
father was killed by his wife…who I guess was not her mother? No wonder<br />
 she has weird wife issues.&#8221; I mean, that&#8217;s tragic and quite a hateful<br />
comment. It&#8217;s &#8220;pretty weak sauce,&#8221; as they say. It also draws attention<br />
 away from your critique of her work, making your (mostly astute) comments  less poignant because, by the end, it just sounds catty and hateful. I wish I saw more solidarity among women making their living this way—yes, even though I know Holly doesn&#8217;t quite consider herself &#8220;one of us.&#8221; We already get a ton of shit from the outside world, and while it&#8217;s not unreasonable to critique Holly&#8217;s misguided attempts and inflated sense of self, your critique would be sharper if it was given more respectfully.</p>
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		By: Joan Kelly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joan Kelly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 20:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/sugarbabe-kat-commiserates-with-a-friend/#comment-186&quot;&gt;Charlotte Shane&lt;/a&gt;.

I resent the implication that it&#039;s not okay for experienced women to talk about the misogyny involved in de-valuing that experience, while purposefully distancing oneself from that experience, all the while clearly NEEDING that fucking experience.  Plus I disagree that this article went on too long; it was funny and smart the whle fucking way through, and *I&#039;m* a little bored and tired of &quot;TL;DR&quot;&#039;s coming from people who have nothing to add other than &quot;I *guess* this didn&#039;t entirely suck but you&#039;re not as funny or smart as you think you are.&quot;

Yes, in this case, yes they really are.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/sugarbabe-kat-commiserates-with-a-friend/#comment-186">Charlotte Shane</a>.</p>
<p>I resent the implication that it&#8217;s not okay for experienced women to talk about the misogyny involved in de-valuing that experience, while purposefully distancing oneself from that experience, all the while clearly NEEDING that fucking experience.  Plus I disagree that this article went on too long; it was funny and smart the whle fucking way through, and *I&#8217;m* a little bored and tired of &#8220;TL;DR&#8221;&#8216;s coming from people who have nothing to add other than &#8220;I *guess* this didn&#8217;t entirely suck but you&#8217;re not as funny or smart as you think you are.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, in this case, yes they really are.</p>
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