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		By: é mais fácil imaginar o fim do capitalismo, que o fim do patriarcado &#8211; netuno vii		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[é mais fácil imaginar o fim do capitalismo, que o fim do patriarcado &#8211; netuno vii]]></dc:creator>
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		By: 2016&#8217;s Best Sex Work Writing — Tits and Sass		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Porno-Enlightenment: How Pornography Propagates A Liberal Worldview by Angel Archer Angel Archer/Rebeka Refuse stands out among sex worker writers in her sharp command of Marxist analysis. In this piece, she examines porn as part of the political ideology of liberalism, tracing the connection from the Marquis de Sade, to the Cold War, and on to Pornhub. [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Porno-Enlightenment: How Pornography Propagates A Liberal Worldview by Angel Archer Angel Archer/Rebeka Refuse stands out among sex worker writers in her sharp command of Marxist analysis. In this piece, she examines porn as part of the political ideology of liberalism, tracing the connection from the Marquis de Sade, to the Cold War, and on to Pornhub. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Capitalist sexuality and &#8220;Sex Positive Feminism&#8221; &#124; Anti-Imperialism.com		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2016 12:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Treblato		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Treblato]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2016 20:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder where the rise in findom/goddess worship/adjacent kinks fits into the equation of propagating liberalism (some dudettes combine it with the #GiveYourMoneyToWomen hashtag, material support versus costless signalling about professing support for women). I&#039;m reminded of Zizek on courtly love, and how really it&#039;s the dude setting up an effigy of ideological security: https://santitafarella.wordpress.com/2012/06/11/courtly-love-or-woman-as-thing-how-to-do-lacanian-analysis-like-slavoj-zizek-or-at-least-understand-what-hes-getting-at/

My initial, somewhat incoherent take: capitalism is increasingly leaving the white dude behind (and the prescription drug abuse/increased suicide rate has an effect on the collective self-image even if a dude isn&#039;t materially affected himself by circumstance) in terms of neoliberal ideology marketing (&quot;white guys are terrorizing women out of consumption of popular media, fighting inequality is seeing Ghostbusters 2016 twice or more&quot;). 

Findom changes this perceived degradation into something in his control and a way to support equality without the danger of any systemic upheaval. He just buys out the wishlist of Goddess_Whoever1990. Ideological uncertainty is replaced with a purpose (e.g., non-stop working and abstaining from all other things). Goddess worship replaces religion if you squint. Moreover, emphasis lies on the subject &#039;earning&#039; a reward if he&#039;s a good enough slave (sexual release linked to meritocracy). The lady controls most aspects of the interaction, but still distributes clips via various platforms if she wants to make a name (individual illusion of control, while the system is still in place). Findom is liberalism pur sang, it sells power and redemption as consumer products.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder where the rise in findom/goddess worship/adjacent kinks fits into the equation of propagating liberalism (some dudettes combine it with the #GiveYourMoneyToWomen hashtag, material support versus costless signalling about professing support for women). I&#8217;m reminded of Zizek on courtly love, and how really it&#8217;s the dude setting up an effigy of ideological security: <a href="https://santitafarella.wordpress.com/2012/06/11/courtly-love-or-woman-as-thing-how-to-do-lacanian-analysis-like-slavoj-zizek-or-at-least-understand-what-hes-getting-at/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://santitafarella.wordpress.com/2012/06/11/courtly-love-or-woman-as-thing-how-to-do-lacanian-analysis-like-slavoj-zizek-or-at-least-understand-what-hes-getting-at/</a></p>
<p>My initial, somewhat incoherent take: capitalism is increasingly leaving the white dude behind (and the prescription drug abuse/increased suicide rate has an effect on the collective self-image even if a dude isn&#8217;t materially affected himself by circumstance) in terms of neoliberal ideology marketing (&#8220;white guys are terrorizing women out of consumption of popular media, fighting inequality is seeing Ghostbusters 2016 twice or more&#8221;). </p>
<p>Findom changes this perceived degradation into something in his control and a way to support equality without the danger of any systemic upheaval. He just buys out the wishlist of Goddess_Whoever1990. Ideological uncertainty is replaced with a purpose (e.g., non-stop working and abstaining from all other things). Goddess worship replaces religion if you squint. Moreover, emphasis lies on the subject &#8216;earning&#8217; a reward if he&#8217;s a good enough slave (sexual release linked to meritocracy). The lady controls most aspects of the interaction, but still distributes clips via various platforms if she wants to make a name (individual illusion of control, while the system is still in place). Findom is liberalism pur sang, it sells power and redemption as consumer products.</p>
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		By: Goldmarx		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Goldmarx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2016 02:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/porno-enlightenment-how-pornography-propagates-a-liberal-worldview/#comment-1121786&quot;&gt;Bq&lt;/a&gt;.

I checked your link, and the article blames online non-porn media, i.e. Kim Kardashian selfies, more than porn.  Thanks for playing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/porno-enlightenment-how-pornography-propagates-a-liberal-worldview/#comment-1121786">Bq</a>.</p>
<p>I checked your link, and the article blames online non-porn media, i.e. Kim Kardashian selfies, more than porn.  Thanks for playing.</p>
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		By: Angel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2016 17:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That “egalitarian” is definitely a misnomer for describing the extent a person agrees with the liberal status quo is a central idea of this essay:

“Inasmuch as media is an ideological reflection of the social forces which produces it, media depicting sex work will promulgate liberal gender egalitarianism for exactly what it is—an ideology which allows for equality only to the extent that civil equality reifies an efficient trade in labor-power as a commodity, in the abstract.” &quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That “egalitarian” is definitely a misnomer for describing the extent a person agrees with the liberal status quo is a central idea of this essay:</p>
<p>“Inasmuch as media is an ideological reflection of the social forces which produces it, media depicting sex work will promulgate liberal gender egalitarianism for exactly what it is—an ideology which allows for equality only to the extent that civil equality reifies an efficient trade in labor-power as a commodity, in the abstract.” &#8220;</p>
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		By: Bq		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bq]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2016 05:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/porno-enlightenment-how-pornography-propagates-a-liberal-worldview/#comment-1121402&quot;&gt;Angel&lt;/a&gt;.

What exactly is &quot;egalitarian&quot; about women dealing with even more sexual violence from men enacting the sociopathic shit that&#039;s getting normalized in Internet porn?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-health/11549954/Teen-girls-Suicide-kills-more-young-women-than-anything.-Heres-why.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/porno-enlightenment-how-pornography-propagates-a-liberal-worldview/#comment-1121402">Angel</a>.</p>
<p>What exactly is &#8220;egalitarian&#8221; about women dealing with even more sexual violence from men enacting the sociopathic shit that&#8217;s getting normalized in Internet porn?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-health/11549954/Teen-girls-Suicide-kills-more-young-women-than-anything.-Heres-why.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-health/11549954/Teen-girls-Suicide-kills-more-young-women-than-anything.-Heres-why.html</a></p>
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		By: Goldmarx		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Goldmarx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2016 00:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/porno-enlightenment-how-pornography-propagates-a-liberal-worldview/#comment-1121402&quot;&gt;Angel&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s the anti-porn feminists who have repeatedly used &quot;objectification&quot; to mean reducing women in porn imagery to one-dimensional, less than fully human objects, whereas men, they argue, are depicted in the same imagery as three-dimensional fully human subjects.  Using that operational definition, however, it is easy to show that men are equally or more objectified in porn in the same sense of being reduced. On first glance, it appeared you were adopting Dworkin&#039;s take on objectification.  Perhaps you could clarify if that is the case, or were you simply using a more benign, innocuous interpretation of objectification as a way of assigning roles to players in a fantasy scenario, the way one assigns subject and object to a sentence one is parsing.

 You are wrong about Bernie Sanders.  While he advocates measures right now that are similar to ones prevalent in social democracies, he has not abandoned his desire to go further and replace capitalism altogether.  Whereas social democrats&#039; endgame is a more humane capitalism; democratic socialists don&#039;t trust capitalism and want it replaced, but nonviolently and with free elections, for instance.   Sanders volunteered on an Israeli kibbutz in the 1960s and supports worker-owned and worker-run enterprises.  This is not an abstract concept for sex workers, as the Lusty Lady business provided a sterling example of how to do socialism right.

Sanders relentless class analysis - his accusations against Wall Street and the One Percent -  makes him an Orthodox Marxist.  That puts him firmly within the radical socialist tradition.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/porno-enlightenment-how-pornography-propagates-a-liberal-worldview/#comment-1121402">Angel</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the anti-porn feminists who have repeatedly used &#8220;objectification&#8221; to mean reducing women in porn imagery to one-dimensional, less than fully human objects, whereas men, they argue, are depicted in the same imagery as three-dimensional fully human subjects.  Using that operational definition, however, it is easy to show that men are equally or more objectified in porn in the same sense of being reduced. On first glance, it appeared you were adopting Dworkin&#8217;s take on objectification.  Perhaps you could clarify if that is the case, or were you simply using a more benign, innocuous interpretation of objectification as a way of assigning roles to players in a fantasy scenario, the way one assigns subject and object to a sentence one is parsing.</p>
<p> You are wrong about Bernie Sanders.  While he advocates measures right now that are similar to ones prevalent in social democracies, he has not abandoned his desire to go further and replace capitalism altogether.  Whereas social democrats&#8217; endgame is a more humane capitalism; democratic socialists don&#8217;t trust capitalism and want it replaced, but nonviolently and with free elections, for instance.   Sanders volunteered on an Israeli kibbutz in the 1960s and supports worker-owned and worker-run enterprises.  This is not an abstract concept for sex workers, as the Lusty Lady business provided a sterling example of how to do socialism right.</p>
<p>Sanders relentless class analysis &#8211; his accusations against Wall Street and the One Percent &#8211;  makes him an Orthodox Marxist.  That puts him firmly within the radical socialist tradition.</p>
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		By: Angel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/porno-enlightenment-how-pornography-propagates-a-liberal-worldview/#comment-1121386&quot;&gt;Goldmarx&lt;/a&gt;.

the fact that the parts of a man which are commonly visible in porn are the parts of one&#039;s own body which are easily visible to one&#039;s self indicates that the man in hetero porn is intended to represent the subject (i.e., be a surrogate for the viewers&#039; consumption for the woman&#039;s sexual labor). that the man is not the object of erotic desire in hetero porn is also indicated by his receiving less payment for the role in the scene and that men will be the primary consumers of this video. 

bernie sanders is a social democrat who supports a northern european style bourgeois liberal democracy (e.g., with a strengthened social safety net) and as such his ideas fall outside of radical socialist tradition and firmly within liberal tradition]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/porno-enlightenment-how-pornography-propagates-a-liberal-worldview/#comment-1121386">Goldmarx</a>.</p>
<p>the fact that the parts of a man which are commonly visible in porn are the parts of one&#8217;s own body which are easily visible to one&#8217;s self indicates that the man in hetero porn is intended to represent the subject (i.e., be a surrogate for the viewers&#8217; consumption for the woman&#8217;s sexual labor). that the man is not the object of erotic desire in hetero porn is also indicated by his receiving less payment for the role in the scene and that men will be the primary consumers of this video. </p>
<p>bernie sanders is a social democrat who supports a northern european style bourgeois liberal democracy (e.g., with a strengthened social safety net) and as such his ideas fall outside of radical socialist tradition and firmly within liberal tradition</p>
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		By: Goldmarx		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Goldmarx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2016 07:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Porn is a form of media which typically delivers images of women’s sexual objectification – the camera focuses on the woman’s body and her affective performance while the male performer seldom exists more than a few inches above his navel or below his knees...&quot;  Well, if so, doesn&#039;t that mean that images of men&#039;s sexual objectification in porn are even greater than women&#039;s?

&quot;(Pornography) ushers in the subsequent triumph of the rational, commanding power of capital over labor—and its fetish of the commodity form.&quot;  So why are a plurality of its fans supporting Bernie Sanders, who, as a democratic socialist, wishes to abolish this power of capital over labor?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Porn is a form of media which typically delivers images of women’s sexual objectification – the camera focuses on the woman’s body and her affective performance while the male performer seldom exists more than a few inches above his navel or below his knees&#8230;&#8221;  Well, if so, doesn&#8217;t that mean that images of men&#8217;s sexual objectification in porn are even greater than women&#8217;s?</p>
<p>&#8220;(Pornography) ushers in the subsequent triumph of the rational, commanding power of capital over labor—and its fetish of the commodity form.&#8221;  So why are a plurality of its fans supporting Bernie Sanders, who, as a democratic socialist, wishes to abolish this power of capital over labor?</p>
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