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		By: Stephanie		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/no-photos-please/#comment-20614</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Feb 2014 22:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can understand the urge to want to take a photo of someone you find so interesting; sex workers are fun and exciting!  There is something big to be said for restraint and kindness.  I would feel violated if someone photographed me without my permission regardless of my attire (Perhaps not so much if I were performing an activity specifically FOR the public, like fire-breathing downtown or something, but still).  I have had the overwhelming urge to take photos of people before, and usually they allow it if you ask politely; if they don&#039;t, it harms you absolutely not one bit.  Legalities and chances of occurrence don&#039;t matter.  Respect your fellow humans.  Don&#039;t be a dick.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand the urge to want to take a photo of someone you find so interesting; sex workers are fun and exciting!  There is something big to be said for restraint and kindness.  I would feel violated if someone photographed me without my permission regardless of my attire (Perhaps not so much if I were performing an activity specifically FOR the public, like fire-breathing downtown or something, but still).  I have had the overwhelming urge to take photos of people before, and usually they allow it if you ask politely; if they don&#8217;t, it harms you absolutely not one bit.  Legalities and chances of occurrence don&#8217;t matter.  Respect your fellow humans.  Don&#8217;t be a dick.</p>
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		By: Rocket		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/no-photos-please/#comment-2235</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 23:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/no-photos-please/#comment-2232&quot;&gt;Eric&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, yes. I &quot;came out&quot; to some members of my family (all of whom live very far away) before they came to Portland to visit me. I figured that they&#039;d see me in advertisements for my club once they were here or that a customer would speak to me about work in their presence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/no-photos-please/#comment-2232">Eric</a>.</p>
<p>Well, yes. I &#8220;came out&#8221; to some members of my family (all of whom live very far away) before they came to Portland to visit me. I figured that they&#8217;d see me in advertisements for my club once they were here or that a customer would speak to me about work in their presence.</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/no-photos-please/#comment-2232</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 21:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi, Rocket.

I agree with the idea of decency/morality in asking before taking. In my perspective, the real issue is a lack of Human decency/ respect. No one ought to be judging you for your chosen profession. Of course, like many things, ideals and the &quot;real&quot; world are at odds.

On the flip side of the coin, I respect your chosen profession, although I am of the thinking that being outed by photos is a job hazard you accept when you enter the trade- if you want to make stripper money, you have to take stripper risks, which include possible outing. My profession has some pretty daunting risks as well, although I accepted those risks when I chose my career in lieu of another less-paying, lower risk one.

I am curious, however, as to your concern for privacy, as you have photos all over the place. Did you &quot;come out&quot;, so to speak, as a stripper st some point?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Rocket.</p>
<p>I agree with the idea of decency/morality in asking before taking. In my perspective, the real issue is a lack of Human decency/ respect. No one ought to be judging you for your chosen profession. Of course, like many things, ideals and the &#8220;real&#8221; world are at odds.</p>
<p>On the flip side of the coin, I respect your chosen profession, although I am of the thinking that being outed by photos is a job hazard you accept when you enter the trade- if you want to make stripper money, you have to take stripper risks, which include possible outing. My profession has some pretty daunting risks as well, although I accepted those risks when I chose my career in lieu of another less-paying, lower risk one.</p>
<p>I am curious, however, as to your concern for privacy, as you have photos all over the place. Did you &#8220;come out&#8221;, so to speak, as a stripper st some point?</p>
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		By: Etienne Perret		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you do not want to be seen or photographed, do not leave the house. Better yet draw the shades.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you do not want to be seen or photographed, do not leave the house. Better yet draw the shades.</p>
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		By: Rocket		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/no-photos-please/#comment-1416</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 05:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kat brings up a great point: dancers should also respect their customer&#039;s possible need for anonymity. I recall once seeing a regular customer in the grocery store with his wife. As our eyes met, he gave me that &quot;please don&#039;t say hello&quot; look of terror. I just walked by. He gushed his thanks next time he came into the club.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kat brings up a great point: dancers should also respect their customer&#8217;s possible need for anonymity. I recall once seeing a regular customer in the grocery store with his wife. As our eyes met, he gave me that &#8220;please don&#8217;t say hello&#8221; look of terror. I just walked by. He gushed his thanks next time he came into the club.</p>
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		By: Kat		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/no-photos-please/#comment-1407</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 03:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/no-photos-please/#comment-1406&quot;&gt;fogues&lt;/a&gt;.

I respect my clients&#039; anonymity on the occasions that I&#039;ve seen them in public and expect the same courtesy in return. I think even eye contact and smiling can be inappropriate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/no-photos-please/#comment-1406">fogues</a>.</p>
<p>I respect my clients&#8217; anonymity on the occasions that I&#8217;ve seen them in public and expect the same courtesy in return. I think even eye contact and smiling can be inappropriate.</p>
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		By: fogues		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 01:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/no-photos-please/#comment-922&quot;&gt;Loki&lt;/a&gt;.

I just refrain from being the initiator of interaction in public.  Making eye contact and smiling, but not saying anything says &quot;Hi&quot; as much as I feel is necessary in that situation.  Turns out, it&#039;s a good thing because had I approached someone once, she would have had some explaining to do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/no-photos-please/#comment-922">Loki</a>.</p>
<p>I just refrain from being the initiator of interaction in public.  Making eye contact and smiling, but not saying anything says &#8220;Hi&#8221; as much as I feel is necessary in that situation.  Turns out, it&#8217;s a good thing because had I approached someone once, she would have had some explaining to do.</p>
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		By: criolle johnny		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It seems the only people who have an &quot;expectation of privacy&quot; are police who cannot be filmed or photographed while &quot;performing their duties&quot;.

I personally DO . NOT . LIKE . CAMERAS .  I hate having my picture taken.  I have no photos of myself other than my drivers license and another ID.  I always walk away at events when someone breaks out the camera, but it seems that the concept of a polite request has been lost.
The one&#039;s who REALLY annoy are the &quot;sneak a pic&quot; freaks who flash a light in my face in a dark club.  I have, reflexively, struck a few of those.  They had the audacity to get upset.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems the only people who have an &#8220;expectation of privacy&#8221; are police who cannot be filmed or photographed while &#8220;performing their duties&#8221;.</p>
<p>I personally DO . NOT . LIKE . CAMERAS .  I hate having my picture taken.  I have no photos of myself other than my drivers license and another ID.  I always walk away at events when someone breaks out the camera, but it seems that the concept of a polite request has been lost.<br />
The one&#8217;s who REALLY annoy are the &#8220;sneak a pic&#8221; freaks who flash a light in my face in a dark club.  I have, reflexively, struck a few of those.  They had the audacity to get upset.</p>
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		By: libby		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 10:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Kat - &quot;The kinds of men who are helping themselves to photos of strippers at the bikini car wash aren’t working for National Geographic; they’re stocking up the spank bank.&quot; - agreed. Though I&#039;m guilty. 

Of course people want to take shitty cell pics of pretty ladies. I&#039;m sorry that those images often end up online. I would argue that it&#039;s an inevitability now, since half the world has some kind of camera.

As for photography, shooting doc style is incredibly confusing because of consent. It&#039;s legal - don&#039;t ever doubt that, especially now - but picking up an actual camera and shooting strangers is a double-knifed conundrum; you&#039;re the shooter, you&#039;re taking advantage of a person, who becomes a subject, and who may become an even bigger subject if the photo ends up being a part of your job, for which you&#039;re responsible. It&#039;s your job to capture documentary photos. 

In my limited experience, civilians shy away from phonecams and cameras because of the same reasons - online exposure. Try shooting wealthy folks, drug dealers or people in Sunday god clothing. They all want to beat or sue you and your camera. But if you&#039;re a doc photographer, then what?

The lesson I&#039;ve learned is ask first, ask quickly, and turn the fuck away when it&#039;s a very clear NO.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Kat &#8211; &#8220;The kinds of men who are helping themselves to photos of strippers at the bikini car wash aren’t working for National Geographic; they’re stocking up the spank bank.&#8221; &#8211; agreed. Though I&#8217;m guilty. </p>
<p>Of course people want to take shitty cell pics of pretty ladies. I&#8217;m sorry that those images often end up online. I would argue that it&#8217;s an inevitability now, since half the world has some kind of camera.</p>
<p>As for photography, shooting doc style is incredibly confusing because of consent. It&#8217;s legal &#8211; don&#8217;t ever doubt that, especially now &#8211; but picking up an actual camera and shooting strangers is a double-knifed conundrum; you&#8217;re the shooter, you&#8217;re taking advantage of a person, who becomes a subject, and who may become an even bigger subject if the photo ends up being a part of your job, for which you&#8217;re responsible. It&#8217;s your job to capture documentary photos. </p>
<p>In my limited experience, civilians shy away from phonecams and cameras because of the same reasons &#8211; online exposure. Try shooting wealthy folks, drug dealers or people in Sunday god clothing. They all want to beat or sue you and your camera. But if you&#8217;re a doc photographer, then what?</p>
<p>The lesson I&#8217;ve learned is ask first, ask quickly, and turn the fuck away when it&#8217;s a very clear NO.</p>
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		By: Ben		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 07:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At 42 I have been doing photography since I was 17. For me in settings like a car wash or the beach, as a prime example, it is so much easier to ask up front. Women and men will pose for the camera and shockingly will sometimes exchange info to get the photos. Also, if three women say no, and four say yes, be happy with the photos of the four. Just my two cents. Plus, once you are seen as a &#039;jerk who did not ask&#039; you might cringe when in three weeks time you see the same woman at a function you are allowed to shoot. She sees and remembers you, the night will not be pleasant.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At 42 I have been doing photography since I was 17. For me in settings like a car wash or the beach, as a prime example, it is so much easier to ask up front. Women and men will pose for the camera and shockingly will sometimes exchange info to get the photos. Also, if three women say no, and four say yes, be happy with the photos of the four. Just my two cents. Plus, once you are seen as a &#8216;jerk who did not ask&#8217; you might cringe when in three weeks time you see the same woman at a function you are allowed to shoot. She sees and remembers you, the night will not be pleasant.</p>
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