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		By: Daily Feminist Cheat Sheet		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/im-katha-pollitts-highly-educated-leftist-and-a-sex-trafficking-victim/#comment-1107573</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2016 21:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Katha Pollitt thinks &#8220;highly educated&#8221; leftist sex worker activists aren&#8217;t letting &#8220;subaltern&#8221; trafficking victims speak. Tara Burns, the trafficking victim who Pollitt used as an example of a &#8220;highly educated&#8221;&#8230;. [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Katha Pollitt thinks &#8220;highly educated&#8221; leftist sex worker activists aren&#8217;t letting &#8220;subaltern&#8221; trafficking victims speak. Tara Burns, the trafficking victim who Pollitt used as an example of a &#8220;highly educated&#8221;&#8230;. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: pat		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/im-katha-pollitts-highly-educated-leftist-and-a-sex-trafficking-victim/#comment-764090</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2015 03:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[awwww hellz yeah. this was good. i just love this site sometimes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awwww hellz yeah. this was good. i just love this site sometimes.</p>
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		By: The Worst Sex Work Headlines of 2014		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/im-katha-pollitts-highly-educated-leftist-and-a-sex-trafficking-victim/#comment-542362</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2014 18:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] It&#8217;s news to us that SO MANY leftists want that, but it would seem that wanting rights for all workers should be a part of any decent politics. Katha Pollitt really goes in on the &#8220;the sex workers we hear from are all too privileged to be credible!&#8221; theme here, not realizing that her example of a New Inquiry-contributing, grad-school attending sex worker has a story that doesn&#8217;t back up her thesis. [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] It&#8217;s news to us that SO MANY leftists want that, but it would seem that wanting rights for all workers should be a part of any decent politics. Katha Pollitt really goes in on the &#8220;the sex workers we hear from are all too privileged to be credible!&#8221; theme here, not realizing that her example of a New Inquiry-contributing, grad-school attending sex worker has a story that doesn&#8217;t back up her thesis. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: The Sunday Brunch Post: 15th of June &#124; The Holywell Street Librarian		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/im-katha-pollitts-highly-educated-leftist-and-a-sex-trafficking-victim/#comment-93112</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2014 15:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] &#8220;I’m Katha Pollitt’s &#8216;Highly Educated&#8217; Leftist—And A Sex Trafficking Victim&#8221; by Ecowhore, Tits and Sass: &#8220;Let’s be honest: she doesn’t care about my victim credentials&#8230; She doesn’t care that thirty percent of the violence experienced by sex trafficking victims is at the hands of the police, or that according to the Ohio Attorney General’s 2012 Human Trafficking Annual Report, the most common buyers of trafficking victims worked in law enforcement. If she really cared about the voices of &#8216;the subaltern,&#8217; she would have listened to groups like the Young Women’s Empowerment Project and supported decriminalizing victims of sex trafficking instead of whining that sex work might be seen as normal. Oh, by the way, we do know the difference between sex and a piece of pie: That’s why we charge $300 for one and $3 for the other.&#8220; [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] &#8220;I’m Katha Pollitt’s &#8216;Highly Educated&#8217; Leftist—And A Sex Trafficking Victim&#8221; by Ecowhore, Tits and Sass: &#8220;Let’s be honest: she doesn’t care about my victim credentials&#8230; She doesn’t care that thirty percent of the violence experienced by sex trafficking victims is at the hands of the police, or that according to the Ohio Attorney General’s 2012 Human Trafficking Annual Report, the most common buyers of trafficking victims worked in law enforcement. If she really cared about the voices of &#8216;the subaltern,&#8217; she would have listened to groups like the Young Women’s Empowerment Project and supported decriminalizing victims of sex trafficking instead of whining that sex work might be seen as normal. Oh, by the way, we do know the difference between sex and a piece of pie: That’s why we charge $300 for one and $3 for the other.&#8220; [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Tara		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/im-katha-pollitts-highly-educated-leftist-and-a-sex-trafficking-victim/#comment-83533</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 09:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And LOL at this:

&#062;  Tara I shouldn’t have phrased my original question as a personal attack on you

It&#039;s not about it being a personal attack - it&#039;s about the institutionalized idea that if I&#039;m not too privileged to speak than I must be to fucked up to speak and if that&#039;s not it there&#039;s probably another reason you can find not to listen to the people who have actually been affected by sex trafficking and related policy because you should really never listen to us.

&#062; I find the relationship between trafficking and choice in this instance to be confusing TO ME

Here&#039;s how I heard someone smart explain it once: you can be raped, and then you can choose to have sex again.  Being raped doesn&#039;t take away your ability to choose or to consent (or not consent) in the future.

Something I&#039;ve heard from a lot of trafficking victims (and that matches a lot of my experience) is that they didn&#039;t mind the work, but they minded the boyfriend or agency owner or whoever who became abusive.  Imagine that you&#039;re doing whatever your job is now, and then one day your boss says you&#039;re going to have to start doing twice as much work for half the money, and if you don&#039;t he&#039;ll call the state and you&#039;ll lose your kids and go to jail, because your job is immoral and means you&#039;re stupid and morally confused.  That&#039;s a very typical trafficking scenario, but would it make you hate your job?  If you got another job in the same field later would it mean you suffered from stockholm syndrome and weren&#039;t capable of making viable choices?  When I was young I liked sex work.  The problem wasn&#039;t that I was going to a house with nice ladies where I had sex that wasn&#039;t violent for the first time ever, the problem was that I&#039;d been isolated and abused by my dad for my whole life.  (Later things got way more complex for me.)

Email me if you want.  I&#039;m happy to educate.  hobostripper at gmail.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And LOL at this:</p>
<p>&gt;  Tara I shouldn’t have phrased my original question as a personal attack on you</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not about it being a personal attack &#8211; it&#8217;s about the institutionalized idea that if I&#8217;m not too privileged to speak than I must be to fucked up to speak and if that&#8217;s not it there&#8217;s probably another reason you can find not to listen to the people who have actually been affected by sex trafficking and related policy because you should really never listen to us.</p>
<p>&gt; I find the relationship between trafficking and choice in this instance to be confusing TO ME</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s how I heard someone smart explain it once: you can be raped, and then you can choose to have sex again.  Being raped doesn&#8217;t take away your ability to choose or to consent (or not consent) in the future.</p>
<p>Something I&#8217;ve heard from a lot of trafficking victims (and that matches a lot of my experience) is that they didn&#8217;t mind the work, but they minded the boyfriend or agency owner or whoever who became abusive.  Imagine that you&#8217;re doing whatever your job is now, and then one day your boss says you&#8217;re going to have to start doing twice as much work for half the money, and if you don&#8217;t he&#8217;ll call the state and you&#8217;ll lose your kids and go to jail, because your job is immoral and means you&#8217;re stupid and morally confused.  That&#8217;s a very typical trafficking scenario, but would it make you hate your job?  If you got another job in the same field later would it mean you suffered from stockholm syndrome and weren&#8217;t capable of making viable choices?  When I was young I liked sex work.  The problem wasn&#8217;t that I was going to a house with nice ladies where I had sex that wasn&#8217;t violent for the first time ever, the problem was that I&#8217;d been isolated and abused by my dad for my whole life.  (Later things got way more complex for me.)</p>
<p>Email me if you want.  I&#8217;m happy to educate.  hobostripper at gmail.</p>
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		By: Tara		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/im-katha-pollitts-highly-educated-leftist-and-a-sex-trafficking-victim/#comment-83511</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 09:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/im-katha-pollitts-highly-educated-leftist-and-a-sex-trafficking-victim/#comment-81579&quot;&gt;Pregunta&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t want law enforcement to treat ANYONE like a potential trafficking victim, because what they do to trafficking victims is violently arrest them and charge them with prostitution or with conspiring to traffick themselves or just plain trafficking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/im-katha-pollitts-highly-educated-leftist-and-a-sex-trafficking-victim/#comment-81579">Pregunta</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want law enforcement to treat ANYONE like a potential trafficking victim, because what they do to trafficking victims is violently arrest them and charge them with prostitution or with conspiring to traffick themselves or just plain trafficking.</p>
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		By: Pregunta		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pregunta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2014 13:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello all, I didn&#039;t realize for a while that my comment had posted and received responses. Interestingly, the main issue I had was something that Robin D alluded to, the issue of privilege. I come from an inner city area where people do sex work as a way to make ends meet or girls are forced into the game while still teens and so to be honest, I generally have regarded websites that paint a rosier picture of the sex industry as middle class white girl activism. Also from the outside I could not understand why someone who started off in the industry by force would come to view it in a positive light. Hence why I found Tara&#039;s story intriguing yet confusing and posted my original comment. However, I am able to admit when I might be wrong and since yes, I am outside the industry and no, I do not know the details or complexities of anyone&#039;s life, I am willing to reexamine my assumptions. I have never believed in criminalizing sex workers - rather, my main concern (to answer the question &#039;why do you care??&#039;) was that activism could go too far in the other direction of tying law enforcement&#039;s hands when it comes to cracking down on pimps, sex trafficking rings, etc. Of course, law enforcement is not the holy grail and has been the source of many problems, including in my own community, but I am not convinced the baby has to be thrown out with the bath water. And it SEEMS to me that people in this online community would generally oppose law enforcement attempts to treat sex workers as potential trafficking victims. All this is to say, Tara I shouldn&#039;t have phrased my original question as a personal attack on you, but rather should have just said that I find the relationship between trafficking and choice in this instance to be confusing TO ME and I personally am not sure how a broader policy approach can take into account those nuances and complexities. Lastly, since it seems this website is meant more as an online safe space than a place to take questions from outsiders, I&#039;ll look for other places to try and engage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello all, I didn&#8217;t realize for a while that my comment had posted and received responses. Interestingly, the main issue I had was something that Robin D alluded to, the issue of privilege. I come from an inner city area where people do sex work as a way to make ends meet or girls are forced into the game while still teens and so to be honest, I generally have regarded websites that paint a rosier picture of the sex industry as middle class white girl activism. Also from the outside I could not understand why someone who started off in the industry by force would come to view it in a positive light. Hence why I found Tara&#8217;s story intriguing yet confusing and posted my original comment. However, I am able to admit when I might be wrong and since yes, I am outside the industry and no, I do not know the details or complexities of anyone&#8217;s life, I am willing to reexamine my assumptions. I have never believed in criminalizing sex workers &#8211; rather, my main concern (to answer the question &#8216;why do you care??&#8217;) was that activism could go too far in the other direction of tying law enforcement&#8217;s hands when it comes to cracking down on pimps, sex trafficking rings, etc. Of course, law enforcement is not the holy grail and has been the source of many problems, including in my own community, but I am not convinced the baby has to be thrown out with the bath water. And it SEEMS to me that people in this online community would generally oppose law enforcement attempts to treat sex workers as potential trafficking victims. All this is to say, Tara I shouldn&#8217;t have phrased my original question as a personal attack on you, but rather should have just said that I find the relationship between trafficking and choice in this instance to be confusing TO ME and I personally am not sure how a broader policy approach can take into account those nuances and complexities. Lastly, since it seems this website is meant more as an online safe space than a place to take questions from outsiders, I&#8217;ll look for other places to try and engage.</p>
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		By: Robin D		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/im-katha-pollitts-highly-educated-leftist-and-a-sex-trafficking-victim/#comment-79773</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2014 23:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/im-katha-pollitts-highly-educated-leftist-and-a-sex-trafficking-victim/#comment-77880&quot;&gt;Tara&lt;/a&gt;.

Exactly!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/im-katha-pollitts-highly-educated-leftist-and-a-sex-trafficking-victim/#comment-77880">Tara</a>.</p>
<p>Exactly!</p>
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		By: Robin D		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/im-katha-pollitts-highly-educated-leftist-and-a-sex-trafficking-victim/#comment-78199</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robin D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2014 11:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/im-katha-pollitts-highly-educated-leftist-and-a-sex-trafficking-victim/#comment-77078&quot;&gt;Robin D&lt;/a&gt;.

And do you think that the author is unwilling to assist people in her former situation or similar?  Maybe that sort of sentiment on her part is what motivated her to speak on a survivor panel at an anti-trafficking conference.  Makes...sense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/im-katha-pollitts-highly-educated-leftist-and-a-sex-trafficking-victim/#comment-77078">Robin D</a>.</p>
<p>And do you think that the author is unwilling to assist people in her former situation or similar?  Maybe that sort of sentiment on her part is what motivated her to speak on a survivor panel at an anti-trafficking conference.  Makes&#8230;sense.</p>
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		By: Tara		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/im-katha-pollitts-highly-educated-leftist-and-a-sex-trafficking-victim/#comment-77880</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2014 02:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/im-katha-pollitts-highly-educated-leftist-and-a-sex-trafficking-victim/#comment-75901&quot;&gt;Pregunta&lt;/a&gt;.

Laying aside the question of whether I&#039;m capable of making choices or not, I think that even if people have been trafficked into the sex trade and just want to get the hell out, it is wrong to arrest them and leave them with a criminal record that makes it difficult for them to obtain housing or employment.  It is also wrong to create a system that leaves them vulnerable to police abuses and unable to report crimes that are committed against them, even if they are victims.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/im-katha-pollitts-highly-educated-leftist-and-a-sex-trafficking-victim/#comment-75901">Pregunta</a>.</p>
<p>Laying aside the question of whether I&#8217;m capable of making choices or not, I think that even if people have been trafficked into the sex trade and just want to get the hell out, it is wrong to arrest them and leave them with a criminal record that makes it difficult for them to obtain housing or employment.  It is also wrong to create a system that leaves them vulnerable to police abuses and unable to report crimes that are committed against them, even if they are victims.</p>
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