Comments on: If You Can’t Accept Facts, You Can’t Be An Ally

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By: Bruce Boston

Bruce Boston — Sat, 26 Dec 2015 20:30:18 +0000

“Actually, as explained in an amicus curiae brief filed by the Cato Institute, Reason Foundation, and DKT Liberty Project, citing voluminous governmental and academic studies, there are no reliable statistics on which Sheriff Dart could base a judgment that sex trafficking has been increasing in the United States.”
Appeal from the United States District Court for the Northern District of Illinois, Eastern Division. No. 15 C 6340 — John J. Tharp, Jr., Judge.
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/rssExec.pl?Submit=Display&Path=Y2015/D11-30/C:15-3047:J:Posner:aut:T:fnOp:N:1663542:S:0

By: Newsweek Embraces Melissa Farley’s Unscrupulous Crusade | Tits and Sass

Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:32:09 +0000

[…] to minimize their own bias, not cater to it. And, as was true in the case of Ashton Kutcher, real activists deal with complex realities. They don’t require and supply a histrionic alterna-world where there’s only one […]

By: Weekly Link Round-up | Phire walk with me

Weekly Link Round-up | Phire walk with me — Mon, 18 Jul 2011 12:37:31 +0000

[…] If You Can’t Accept Facts, You Can’t Be An Ally The URL is not safe for work. Famed celebrity Ashton Kutcher has been campaigning against human trafficking, but he was called out last week by Village Voice for having inaccurate (read: made-up) statistics in his campaign literature. Kutcher strikes back rather vindictively and all but accuses Village Voice of supporting sex slavery. This excellent blog post examines why it’s important to get your facts right in issues like these, and why Mr. Kutcher’s motives may not be as pure as he would like to pretend. […]

By: Charlotte Shane

Charlotte Shane — Fri, 08 Jul 2011 12:34:20 +0000

In reply to Rebecca.

Rebecca, I endorse your suggestion that we “be honest” and that’s precisely why I wrote what I did. I am quite certain that sex worker activists would have been and would still be thrilled to be invited to participate and inform Mr. Kutcher in his campaign. However, I do not know how you expect them to force themselves on him. If he had wanted to find and include (or rather, if his “philanthropy consultants” had wanted to find and include) these women—and men—he/they could have. Short of tweeting at him and writing articles, I’m not sure what more you suggest they do to get his attention. I also would ask that you read Laura Agustin, one of the most inspiring and original women studying trafficking issues today, and her account of how exactly Kutcher responded when she, an actual trafficking expert, met his dilettante self at a trafficking panel: http://www.lauraagustin.com/only-playing-stupid-about-sex-trafficking-pull-the-other-one-ashton

I don’t understand how you can say that people often only pay attention if a celebrity is speaking, then try to pretend that Kutcher’s voice equals that of true activists, none of whom are celebrities. (Side note: I sincerely appreciate you making that “true” distinction.) If we’re being honest, then I don’t see how you can seriously claim that if you’re Jennifer Aniston and I’m Suzy Hooker, you aren’t capable of “yelling over” me just by virtue of your celebrity.

I don’t understand your last paragraph full stop. It’s clear to me that’s what’s clouding the issue are false numbers and hysteria, not “liberated ideas about sex.”

By: Rebecca

Rebecca — Fri, 08 Jul 2011 04:52:54 +0000

Let’s be honest here. It’s not Ashton Kutcher “yelling over” the true activists. Its not as if there’s some limit on the amount of hours that can be spent discussing sex slavery. People just don’t necessarily pay attention to an issue unless a celebrity is telling them to. While I agree that that’s not a great thing, its a fact that non-profits and activists have to accept when trying to help a cause. Maybe these activists that you mention could try to team up with Ashton Kutcher and actually make a difference. Even if there are “only” 8,000 child sex slaves, that’s still a problem. And slavery isn’t the only issue, the average age that sex workers enter the industry is 12-14.

Its hard to say that legalizing prostitution (an idea which jd touched on) and child sex slavery are the issue. We shouldn’t let our more liberated ideas about sex cloud the issue.

More– http://www.gems-girls.org/

By: Tamarind

Tamarind — Thu, 07 Jul 2011 15:38:20 +0000

In reply to jd.

“That means informing the authorities of underage activity.”

The only “underage activity” of “sex workers” is rape.

Rape of a minor falls broadly under local mandatory reporting laws.

By: If You Can’t Accept Facts, You Can’t Be An Ally

If You Can’t Accept Facts, You Can’t Be An Ally — Thu, 07 Jul 2011 14:23:17 +0000

[…] following piece by Charlotte Shane originally appeared on the Tits and Sass blog and is republished here with the permission of the author. Charlotte, also known at Nightmare […]

By: Gorbachev

Gorbachev — Wed, 06 Jul 2011 23:11:22 +0000

This had what the prohibitionists miss: it had clarity and lucidity.

No hyperbole or moral incriminations unjustified by facts.