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		By: Sandra		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/hookers-stand-up-2/#comment-1217759</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2019 06:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think this joke was made in good faith, and not meant as any bad harm. Hope everything was cleared up. (Big fan of Fetlife btw :)

Sandra]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this joke was made in good faith, and not meant as any bad harm. Hope everything was cleared up. (Big fan of Fetlife btw 🙂</p>
<p>Sandra</p>
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		By: Wise Investment &#171; The Honest Courtesan		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/hookers-stand-up-2/#comment-4193</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wise Investment &#171; The Honest Courtesan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 00:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] drunk hooker…”.  As you might imagine, a huge brouhaha ensued, as reported by Kitty Stryker in Tits and Sass on August 31st: Last Sunday, BDSM community site FetLife did what a lot of popular sites do every [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] drunk hooker…”.  As you might imagine, a huge brouhaha ensued, as reported by Kitty Stryker in Tits and Sass on August 31st: Last Sunday, BDSM community site FetLife did what a lot of popular sites do every [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Butterfly Collectors: Costs of True Ownership &#171; Sir Stompsalot		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/hookers-stand-up-2/#comment-3537</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Butterfly Collectors: Costs of True Ownership &#171; Sir Stompsalot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 18:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] It silences people who are offended, because they’re afraid to come out and say why. Not everyone can be out as queer, a rape victim, or a sex worker. It normalizes and humorizes violence, racism, lack of consent, stereotyping, and other problematic behaviors that have painful realities attached. https://titsandsass.com/hookers-stand-up-2/ [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] It silences people who are offended, because they’re afraid to come out and say why. Not everyone can be out as queer, a rape victim, or a sex worker. It normalizes and humorizes violence, racism, lack of consent, stereotyping, and other problematic behaviors that have painful realities attached. <a href="https://titsandsass.com/hookers-stand-up-2/" rel="ugc">https://titsandsass.com/hookers-stand-up-2/</a> [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: SEXXXYSHOP BLOG - Creepy Gmale, Porn Performer HIV Positive, Hollie Stevens, FetLife And Drunk Hookers, AFA and Pedos: Sex News		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/hookers-stand-up-2/#comment-1491</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SEXXXYSHOP BLOG - Creepy Gmale, Porn Performer HIV Positive, Hollie Stevens, FetLife And Drunk Hookers, AFA and Pedos: Sex News]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 23:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] community storm ensued.) Fetlife Just Doesn’t Get It When It Come to Joking About Sex Workers + Hookers Stand Up (Charlie Glickman, Tits And [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] community storm ensued.) Fetlife Just Doesn’t Get It When It Come to Joking About Sex Workers + Hookers Stand Up (Charlie Glickman, Tits And [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Lilithe		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/hookers-stand-up-2/#comment-1451</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 02:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This was my response to Rayne&#039;s article on Eden Cafe:

The phrase “going down like a drunk hooker” is full of slut shaming. It is not celebratory, or honoring of sex work. It has the full feeling of frat boy ignorance of the life of a sex worker. It fuels the image of sex workers as strung out ho-bags. When you hear “drunk hooker”, does the wonder of a person sharing their body for the joys of sex come to mind? No, the image of a used up piece of substance strung sex garbage who will do anything for a buck does, and THAT is why an apology to sex workers was in need. Especially because a lot of us sex workers ARE Fetlife supporters. I was personally offended. Not overly offended, but offended nonetheless.

One other aspect of this, is that the bulk of sex workers who do use substances, are people who do not want to be doing sex work, or are trafficked, and they use substances to deal with the pain, to disassociate themselves so that they can work (or live with being forced to work).

There is a certain privilege for those of us who have chosen sex work, and in ignorance we can say “oh it’s just a joke”. It is not a fucking joke for the suffering of those in sex work who are forced to be there against their will, or are so hopeless they feel there is nothing else for them to do. It is an ignorant, tasteless and insensitive joke – not so much for us privileged sex workers, but for the ones who are not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was my response to Rayne&#8217;s article on Eden Cafe:</p>
<p>The phrase “going down like a drunk hooker” is full of slut shaming. It is not celebratory, or honoring of sex work. It has the full feeling of frat boy ignorance of the life of a sex worker. It fuels the image of sex workers as strung out ho-bags. When you hear “drunk hooker”, does the wonder of a person sharing their body for the joys of sex come to mind? No, the image of a used up piece of substance strung sex garbage who will do anything for a buck does, and THAT is why an apology to sex workers was in need. Especially because a lot of us sex workers ARE Fetlife supporters. I was personally offended. Not overly offended, but offended nonetheless.</p>
<p>One other aspect of this, is that the bulk of sex workers who do use substances, are people who do not want to be doing sex work, or are trafficked, and they use substances to deal with the pain, to disassociate themselves so that they can work (or live with being forced to work).</p>
<p>There is a certain privilege for those of us who have chosen sex work, and in ignorance we can say “oh it’s just a joke”. It is not a fucking joke for the suffering of those in sex work who are forced to be there against their will, or are so hopeless they feel there is nothing else for them to do. It is an ignorant, tasteless and insensitive joke – not so much for us privileged sex workers, but for the ones who are not.</p>
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		By: Misogyny at Carnival Divine &#171; Not an Odalisque		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/hookers-stand-up-2/#comment-1439</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Misogyny at Carnival Divine &#171; Not an Odalisque]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 12:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] started to doubt myself a little less, reading Kitty Stryker on the subject of FetLife tweeting a “drunk hooker joke”: When people call you out on the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] started to doubt myself a little less, reading Kitty Stryker on the subject of FetLife tweeting a “drunk hooker joke”: When people call you out on the [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: jane whatsername		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/hookers-stand-up-2/#comment-1434</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 04:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;go down like a well paid hooker&quot; 


that woulda been a little nicer :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;go down like a well paid hooker&#8221; </p>
<p>that woulda been a little nicer 🙂</p>
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		By: Rayne		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/hookers-stand-up-2/#comment-1424</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 18:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Howdy, Kitty. Wasn&#039;t sure if you were still reading EdenCafe, so I figured I&#039;d leave you a link to my response to your and other comments. :)  http://wp.me/pzB24-3wZ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy, Kitty. Wasn&#8217;t sure if you were still reading EdenCafe, so I figured I&#8217;d leave you a link to my response to your and other comments. 🙂  <a href="http://wp.me/pzB24-3wZ" rel="nofollow ugc">http://wp.me/pzB24-3wZ</a></p>
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		By: Iamcuriousblue		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/hookers-stand-up-2/#comment-1418</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 07:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/hookers-stand-up-2/#comment-1415&quot;&gt;Kitty Stryker&lt;/a&gt;.

If FetLife put that in their TOS, then they&#039;re the ones who get to make that call. Unlike defamation, &quot;hate speech&quot; does not exist as a legal category in the US.

Now if they want to engage in speech that alienates a large part of their own online community, then they can suffer the consequences of that without anybody&#039;s formal free speech rights being violated at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/hookers-stand-up-2/#comment-1415">Kitty Stryker</a>.</p>
<p>If FetLife put that in their TOS, then they&#8217;re the ones who get to make that call. Unlike defamation, &#8220;hate speech&#8221; does not exist as a legal category in the US.</p>
<p>Now if they want to engage in speech that alienates a large part of their own online community, then they can suffer the consequences of that without anybody&#8217;s formal free speech rights being violated at all.</p>
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		By: Kitty Stryker		</title>
		<link>https://titsandsass.com/hookers-stand-up-2/#comment-1415</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kitty Stryker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 05:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://titsandsass.com/hookers-stand-up-2/#comment-1413&quot;&gt;Iamcuriousblue&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m just asking these question, I&#039;m not saying I know the answers. It&#039;s really difficult to say where the lines are. Technically, and like it or not, Fetlife&#039;s TOS does not allow for hate speech: &quot;You agree that you will not use BitLove Inc’s Products and Services to: Personally attack, make fun of, troll, flame, bully, stalk or otherwise harass another member....Make or promote any type of racism or hate towards anyone in specific or a group of people. Unless in the context of role-playing between consenting parties&quot;. ::shrug:: That&#039;s why I asked!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://titsandsass.com/hookers-stand-up-2/#comment-1413">Iamcuriousblue</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just asking these question, I&#8217;m not saying I know the answers. It&#8217;s really difficult to say where the lines are. Technically, and like it or not, Fetlife&#8217;s TOS does not allow for hate speech: &#8220;You agree that you will not use BitLove Inc’s Products and Services to: Personally attack, make fun of, troll, flame, bully, stalk or otherwise harass another member&#8230;.Make or promote any type of racism or hate towards anyone in specific or a group of people. Unless in the context of role-playing between consenting parties&#8221;. ::shrug:: That&#8217;s why I asked!</p>
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